This is the kind of response I expected. This has nothing to do with the Jets. It's about what you said. You insinuated the game was fixed. I'm not sure how anyone not wearing a straight jacket could have come to that conclusion.

Is the NFL always on the up and up? Maybe, maybe not. I can see both sides of the arguement and any time that much money is involved there is a greater risk for some funny business. But that game was a legit beatdown. On both sides of the line.

Well then you're reading what I initially wrote too literally. The Jets didn't need any help in the second half. They took care of it on their own quite nicely, even with their best player going down. But if they did, you damn well better believe the flags would have been flying in their favor. The post was an extension on a conversation Coach and I and others had last week.

IMO Most NFL games are on the up and up. I try to bet the low profile games like STL-OAK or ARI-ATL this week, or totals. Less TV's = less likelihood of the bookies getting one sided = better chance to have an outcome decided fairly. FYI the Jets-Pats line moved 4 points which is almost unheard of in the NFL. On top of that it was far and away the highest profile game on the day involving a team from the #1 market.

For what it's worth I KNEW the Jets were the right side today and didn't have the balls to bet them.

Coach, next Sunday's early line is Dolphins -1.5, what do you think? Personally I'm surprised the Jimmy Buffetts aren't laying 3-4.

Oh fucl< Cach..



Who do you think the main fixer is?

They realize Brit Far is done? Gotta like the Jets in that one...just let Sanchez play.

The line moved 2 points. The Pats opened -1 and closed -3.

Opened at Jets -1 at several shops in LV.
http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds...9-10/time/1615

ive got to side with phil on this..the refs do have some say in the game and they do know whats going as far as spreads,,look at the b ball ref.

If Gene Steratore isn't betting on football games, I'd be shocked. He's single-handedly deciding game outcomes at this point.

That was last Monday before the Jets had played. By Tuesday, after the Jets played Monday night the Pats were the favorite on every board you posted.

Again, I'm only talking about yesterday's game and what he said about yesterday's game. Phil said the outcome was predetermined, which I disagree with. I acknowledge the refs absolutely have some say in the game.

But I also don't think it's as much as is being represented here. If I did I'd never bet another sports game.

Where's Chuck? Every time I suggest that NBA refs influence games, he's in my ass two seconds later, undermining me and dumping on my theories. But Phil's on his 'NFL fixes games through its refs' horse for several pages and Chuck is nowhere to be found.

I'm sure Chuck will find you sometime soon.

Donaghy admitted that the NBA was always in the refs ears about certain teams/players. Granted the guy is a criminal, but I believed what he had to say.

All you have to do is say Rasheed Wallace and your point is made. I think the guy got T'd for making a 3 and raising both arms at a ref as he was back peddling up court to play "D" without saying a word. The standard is who you are not what they did alot of times

RockTard....r u barred from any of the rooms?

Since RockTard is an ineligible receiver, does anyone know if the nincompoop as appeared in the Padlock today?

A few facts. I have never once been banned anywhere. You've said this before and I asked you to prove it. You can't because you have totally made it up. TVG board? Cali board? ESPN board? I've never posted there EVER. Multiple names? When and where. Prove your accusations.

You also said I threatened you and your kids. I said prove it, because no such thing ever happened. Again, you can't because you totally made it up.

You on the other hand have been banned here at least 5 times. That's pretty impressive because I think most would admit Steve is about as relaxed as it gets. You were also banned at PA. I'm sure there have been others, but I'm sure everyone gets the point.

So in terms of being banned the score is RockTardLiar-6 Me-0.

It's the only thing you'll ever be better than me at. Getting kicked out of places.

Jesus...it's a conspiracy.

Against me, I meant.