Yeah, well, I'd love to see Z take on a decent horse that was in good form and race ready.

Not gonna see either happen, now are we?

You must've missed Z's last (record-setting) race where she had to spot nine pounds to a real nice mare.

At least Steve D. was impressed…

You musta missed the bolded part of my post.

what record did she set?

The one for number of meaningless watered down Grade I victories propped up by internet mouthbreathers as great accomplishments.

i figured he meant wins in a row, but she didn't set a wins in a row record. pepper's pride, much as bloodhorse, tvg and zenyatta fans wish to pretend otherwise, holds the modern-day wins record.
it's pretty bad when they have to come up with some convoluted 'wins in a row by a horse not running in restricted races...er, restricted to state bred races... record. oh, don't forget 'modern day'...passed cigar and citation-but somehowe mr frisky and hallowed dreams usually don't get mentioned! it's hilarious.

Hence

the term

Zenyattard.

http://startelegramsports.typepad.co...the-grade.html

an interesting article by gary west about rachels next race. make sure you read the comments section as well, with GW going into more detail about past racing...

Great read. Thanks for finding that.

Lol … yeah, IC, Trinians ran like crap … probably should've skipped the G1 contest and run in half-a-dozen fake races (like RA) before taking on the big mare … LOL.

Mitch had her ready for a big effort in the V … which she clearly delivered.



By the way, Danzig, how many Breeders' Cup races did this Pepper horse win? LMAO

I think this spot for Rachel is total comedy and I have lost all respect for the connections, any respect that I had left is now gone.... Even if she ran in the Whitney and got smoked it would still say more then running in this spot, this is a joke and its pathetic. If not the Whitney why not go 10f at Toga, why not an easy prep and defend your Woodward title, again even if you get beat it still says your willing to run, I dont see how any Rachel fans can bash Zenyattas connections after the Rachel camp settles on this spot. I hope she gets crushed at Monmouth and then retires, so we dont have to talk about it anymore.

I've lost all respect for Jackson as well. I hope he can sleep at night.

I have gained respect for you over the years.... Just thought it was a good time to let you know.

Pretty sure this West guy backed RA for HotY … so it's beyond hilarious to see him now saying that it's all about the competition … and not the Roman numeral next to the race name.


Uh, West, who exactly were those killers that RA beat last year … Macho Again … Bullsbay? LMAO

yeah, i know....pepper's pride, such a pretender(but she's still the record holder, not zenyatta). she ran in all restricted races, so they shouldn't count-right?
based on that logic, zenyatta is 1/1.

no, i'm pretty sure what he was saying is that many races that are graded shouldn't be...and that historically, horses in top form didn't only run in graded races. and he's right on both points.

monmouth reached out to the mosses to run in this race as welll, they were turned down. no doubt because it's not graded. :rolleyes:

If you are going to criticize grade 1's as being watered down, atleast have the integrity, consistency, or honesty take your pick I don't care... and recognize the Woodward field was a watered down mediocrity last year.

So now your saying this, like what the umpteenth time that Zenyatta has ducked RA?

Huh?

The way MTH played the past two (racing) days, it's back to the MTH of old. So, RA gets a uber speed favoring track (while at CD last out she only got a speed favoring track) wins the race and runs fast. Her fans are happy, speed freaks in general are happy, the DRF/BEYER camp is happy, all the Z bashers (headed by Mike the EUNUCH --- with DaHoss his primary minion- over at PA) are happy. And, more importantly, 5 years from, DrugS is able to do one of those BEYERIAN historical writes up of his where he lauds the ability of RA --- 'she was FAST, the BEYERS prove it", DrugS will write (while off his medication). It's all ****in' good. :rolleyes:

I'll give you props for this, I said it last year JJ was an opportunist that many wanted to believe he was actually sporting. It's not really sporting when you are the 3/4 favorite in supposed gr.1 race against older horses. I think this year we are seeing just what JJ's true intentions are. Turns down big money to race in the Apple Blossom against Zenyatta, yeah I know the supposed reasons but goes to Monmouth for the money...It's bizarre, but not a surprise to me he has chosen this race with how she has looked this year and the campaign she has been on in 2010. No grade 1's yet, if they would only commit to the BC in the fall and race in the Classic I would cut her some slack, but that's not happening. We all should know this by now, since the BC is not out west and not on pro-ride it should be fun seeing what excuses JJ invents this year to not face top flight competition or run past Sept 5. Should be entertaining...