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hockey2315 03-30-2008 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by King Glorious
I said after the comeback race earlier in the month that Big Brown would be better than any horse that would run in either the Florida Derby, Blue Grass or Wood not named War Pass. I still feel that way. There is no way this horse doesn't finish in the exacta in the Derby if he's in the gate.
Really?!?! Well then it sounds like you're going to be making a lot of money come May 3rd. . . I guess I won't :(

Cannon Shell 03-30-2008 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by cmorioles
Isn't something done to the track between pretty much every race? I doubt we can tell with the naked eye, or even binoculars, what it is that changes the speed of the surface.
You mean there isnt a big scraper with a neon sign attached to it saying "NOW SCRAPING"? Actually the addition of water especially on a hot day will do alot to tighten up a dirt track.

Cannon Shell 03-30-2008 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Danzig
and i would think his ability to remain fit would be affected by that-as well as his ability to run at churchill. like moss said, that track is unkind to bad feet.
And this is based upon?

Cajungator26 03-30-2008 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
And this is based upon?
Was wondering the same thing myself... I had heard the opposite of Churchill's surface. :confused:

Danzig 03-30-2008 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
And this is based upon?
i don't know, ask randy moss.

The Indomitable DrugS 03-30-2008 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
And this is based upon?
A bunch of nonsense that because the CD track on Derby day typically yields fast times throughout the card that it must be like a paved road and thus horses without the toughest of feet get exposed over it.

pgardn 03-30-2008 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Danzig
i do have a question tho.

i just read the write up on t'bred times and they say that his stamina was never depleted. but what about his stretch run? was he weaving like an irishman on st paddys day because he was green? or was he rubber legged because he ran out of gas?

He was blowing very hard after the race when they were talking to kent.
I remember thinking I wanted him to walk it out, not just sit and do an interview.

Cannon Shell 03-30-2008 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Danzig
i don't know, ask randy moss.
He hasnt been seen since the Super Bowl

Cannon Shell 03-30-2008 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by pgardn
He was blowing very hard after the race when they were talking to kent.
What did you expect? Him to be sitting on a beach chair, sipping a Frank's Energy drink?

Cajungator26 03-30-2008 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
What did you expect? Him to be sitting on a beach chair, sipping a Frank's Energy drink?
You're in rare form tonight, Chuck. :D

The Indomitable DrugS 03-30-2008 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by pgardn
He was blowing very hard after the race when they were talking to kent.
He only had two workouts all year prior to his return race ....

Being that far behind on seasoning, and running fast early and winning a fast paced 9 furlong race in blowout fashion....he had every right to get tired in the late stages and after the race.

He'd be from another planet if he wasn't a little tired.

dylbert 03-30-2008 08:22 PM
Feets Don't Fail Me Now...
 
Big Brown may come up four feet short of the Kentucky Derby -- as in his four hooves. Bad feet have stopped many horses through the years.

Cannon Shell 03-30-2008 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
You're in rare form tonight, Chuck. :D
I watched No Country for Old Men tonight and the 457 killings are affecting me.

The Indomitable DrugS 03-30-2008 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
He hasnt been seen since the Super Bowl
We need to get the ESPN racing analyst a similar rap song to this great one in his honor...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXivi7uqtTc

Cajungator26 03-30-2008 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dylbert
Big Brown may come up four feet short of the Kentucky Derby -- as in his four hooves. Bad feet have stopped many horses through the years.
Scat Daddy being last year's version. :mad:

pgardn 03-30-2008 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
What did you expect? Him to be sitting on a beach chair, sipping a Frank's Energy drink?

Sometimes Dutrows horses seem in extraordinary good
shape and catch their wind very quickly.

He was breathing very hard.
He was not prepared for a good ole gallop out
like some of Dutrows others. Reminded of me of
my own dry heaving after excessive exertion after a race.
Ya just dont want to sit there. My wife has this excessive paranioa
about cooling horses down properly and she kind of got mad.

Cannon Shell 03-30-2008 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by pgardn
Sometimes Dutrows horses seem in extraordinary good
shape and catch their wind very quickly.

He was breathing very hard.
He was not prepared for a good ole gallop out
like some of Dutrows others.
You actually monitor the post race breathing patterns of Dutrow horses?

Payson Dave 03-30-2008 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
You actually monitor the post race breathing patterns of Dutrow horses?
I laughed...

Cajungator26 03-30-2008 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Yeah it was bad feet. :rolleyes:
He had quarter cracks in his feet...

Scat Daddy would blow the socks off most of these horses in this year's crop. :rolleyes:


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