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Bigsmc 10-16-2008 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Assuming these are the six in the P6, and not the two races after the classic??

$2 million Breeders' Cup Mile (gr. I) 4 3:15 p.m.
$2 million Bessemer Trust Breeders' Cup Juvenile (gr. I) 5 3:55 p.m.
$1 million Grey Goose Breeders' Cup Juvenile Turf 6 4:35 p.m.
$2 million Sentient Flight Group Breeders' Cup Sprint (gr. 1) 7 5:15 p.m.
$3 million Emirates Airline Breeders' Cup Turf (gr. I) 8 6:00 p.m.
$5 million Breeders' Cup Classic (gr. I) 9 6:45 p.m.

I thought someone posted a wagering menu a couple weeks ago. I can't find it now.

*edit* Found it, Sniper's thread.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...and-wager-menu

Kasept 10-16-2008 12:37 PM


the_fat_man 10-16-2008 12:40 PM

Can I safely assume that the cards will be streamed online (as usual) on the CALRACING site?

Kasept 10-16-2008 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man
Can I safely assume that the cards will be streamed online (as usual) on the CALRACING site?

And/or the Breeders Cup/ESPN sites..

Kasept 10-16-2008 01:24 PM

BC: Cross-entries (Final decisions)
 
Awesome Gem: Mile (2)
Black Magic Mama: Juvenile Fillies (1)
Casino Drive: Classic (1)
Coronet of a Baron: Juvenile Turf (2)
Dave ’s Revenge: Juvenile Fillies (2)
Dream Empress: Juvenile Fillies (1)
Elusive Bluff: Juvenile (1)
Emmy Darling: Juvenile Fillies Turf (1)
Evita Argentina: Juvenile Fillies (1)
Fairbanks: Classic (2)
First Defence: Sprint (1)
Gallant Son: Juvenile (1)
Goldikova: Mile (1)
Indian Blessing: Filly & Mare Sprint (1)
Lewis Michael: Dirt Mile (1)
Lord Admiral: Dirt Mile (2)
Mast Track: Dirt Mile (2)
Mine That Bird: Juvenile (1)
Precious Kitten: Mile (1)
Pyro: Dirt Mile (2)
Raven ’s Pass: Classic (1)
Rebellion: Dirt Mile (1)
Renda: Juvenile Fillies Turf (1)
Saucey Evening: Juvenile Fillies Turf (1)
Slew ’s Tizzy: Dirt Mile (2)
Spring House: Turf (1)
Ventura: Filly & Mare Sprint (1)
Well Armed: Dirt Mile (1)

Scav 10-16-2008 01:36 PM

I am curious, do you consider all these cross entries to be insane and ridiculous?

Makes it real hard for me to follow right now, unlike years past where were were a couple and most of them were for turf related.

Now that I think about it, you think it is because of the synethic?

GBBob 10-16-2008 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
I am curious, do you consider all these cross entries to be insane and ridiculous?

Makes it real hard for me to follow right now, unlike years past where were were a couple and most of them were for turf related.

Now that I think about it, you think it is because of the synethic?

17 of the 26 are Turf to Synthetic or vice-versa..Doubt you would see that at CD

Kasept 10-16-2008 01:48 PM

11 come from the boy/girl Juvy-Juvy Turf races as well.. That's a big part of it.

And Dirt Mile produced 9 more..

Those reperesent 20 of the 30 X-entries.

cmorioles 10-16-2008 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man
Can I safely assume that the cards will be streamed online (as usual) on the CALRACING site?

I would assume they won't be.

Bigsmc 10-16-2008 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
11 come from the boy/girl Juvy-Juvy Turf races as well.. That's a big part of it.

And Dirt Mile produced 9 more..

Those reperesent 20 of the 30 X-entries.

19 X-entries in 11 races last year.

Danzig 10-16-2008 02:16 PM

what a surprise, the classic is the last bc race again. :D

Alan07 10-16-2008 02:33 PM

The simulcast show (TVG) will be shown at www.breederscup.com

Quiet Chris 10-16-2008 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Forever together is a nice horse, but come on already.

She has absolutely destroyed the top fillies and mares 2x this year. The Diana was no fluke as she showed at Keeneland. The races were not even competitive. The only loss was on a yielding turf in Canada.

A win and she is the Eclipse winner. She will have to deal with heat and distance, although I doubt distance is really going to be an issue.

Round Pen 10-16-2008 03:32 PM

the One that really kind of caught me off guard was Casino Drive
1.Classic
2.Marathon (what a mile and 1/4 not far enough):confused:

Scav 10-16-2008 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Round Pen
the One that really kind of caught me off guard was Casino Drive
1.Classic
2.Marathon (what a mile and 1/4 not far enough):confused:

I think that was more if they were not to get chosen for the Classic, then they had another option.

I might be mistaken, but I think half the field is chosen by a panel or some people

Hickory Hill Hoff 10-16-2008 03:45 PM

Here's another link to the 14 race breakdown from the Breeder's Cup site with all the "bells & whistles" :D

http://www.breederscup.com/content/2...PreEntries.pdf

3kings 10-16-2008 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man
Can I safely assume that the cards will be streamed online (as usual) on the CALRACING site?

They are definitely streamed on Breederscup.com. Watched them live last year from Mexico.

Scav 10-16-2008 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Well you've already established an excuse if she doesn't run like you think. (heat and distance) She's nice, I'm not denying it. But, I disagree she's the best filly or mare in the world right now. That's silly.

Exactly, dude has a hard on for Forever Together.

I will give him that she looks GREAT on the TG sheets. She will be a major key for TG players.

smuthg 10-17-2008 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
I think that was more if they were not to get chosen for the Classic, then they had another option.

I might be mistaken, but I think half the field is chosen by a panel or some people

I think they hired Dakota Fanning to make his case, much like in "Dreamer"...

Quiet Chris 10-17-2008 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I'm not convinced she's one of the top 3 Americans in the field and the Europeans look strong as well. I think she's in too tough this time around. The best filly or mare in the world thing is just crazy talk.

Name the filly or mare that is better than her. If she is in this race than it is pointless to name her, because it will be settled on the track. She appears to be much the best in this field and will likely win in the same manner she won at Saratoga and Keeneland. Easily.

Scav 10-17-2008 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quiet Chris
Name the filly or mare that is better than her. If she is in this race than it is pointless to name her, because it will be settled on the track. She appears to be much the best in this field and will likely win in the same manner she won at Saratoga and Keeneland. Easily.

Zarkava

GBBob 10-17-2008 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Zarkava

Quiet Chris did preface his point by saying "as good as any filly running now"

PSH 10-17-2008 10:25 AM

Forever
 
If she runs back to her top on the TG sheets she wins......
Distance will not be a problem, agree...

Scav 10-17-2008 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob
Quiet Chris did preface his point by saying "as good as any filly running now"

He is being unrealisticly retarded with this statements

I just had to explain football to the fat indian at my work for 15 minutes, and 'first down' took 10 minutes of explanation, find me a gun

GBBob 10-17-2008 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
He is being unrealisticly retarded with this statements

I just had to explain football to the fat indian at my work for 15 minutes, and 'first down' took 10 minutes of explanation, find me a gun

I'm not saying I agree, but that he was excluding Zarkava..but that may be too much might reading

Quiet Chris 10-17-2008 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Zarkava

Last I checked she was retired.

westcoastinvader 10-17-2008 03:57 PM

I just received the "Souvenir" tickets via certified mail. Nice!

Hard solid glossy laminate about the same size as my Raiders season tickets, and suitable to be worn around the neck if one is so inclined. A really nice photo of a Santa Anita stretch drive in the center.

There's an option to order what looks like a really nice poster by Fred Stone:

"Bred for Glory", The Official 2008 Breeders' Cup Poster

http://champions.stores.yahoo.net/bforglpl1.html

Here's a link to the $40 version. Better grades are available.

2Hot4TV 10-17-2008 07:48 PM

The traffic going into the track can get pretty slow, so give yourself plenty of time to enjoy the slow roll in.

General admission gives you access to the paddock gardens which include the walking ring, the main floor under the grandstands all the way up to the rail of the track and I think you also get access to the Dungon under the main floor. That's where it is easy to place a wager after the horses head to the track.

I'm sure you will enjoy Santa Anita and good luck at the windows.

westcoastinvader 10-17-2008 10:39 PM

The traffic going into the track can get pretty slow, so give yourself plenty of time to enjoy the slow roll in.

Thanks, 2Hot4TV. I try to do everything possible to avoid sitting in traffic. I'm a bit concerned that this 10:10AM 1st race time may muck some things up due to people just realizing at the last minute.

I've been by Arcadia on the I-210, but have never exited to explore.

Question: The track recommends taking the Santa Anita Avenue, but I was wondering if there was any merit to exiting earlier coming from the west and maybe using Colorado Boulevard, or possibly Huntington Drive?

Or, is there any recommendation of a place to park without committing to driving into the track, and then just walking a bit to avoid exit traffic?

We have no problem going 8 furlongs on a walk to make the drive in or out nicer.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts.

Oh, and I've also considered parking in Pasadena and using the metro rail to the track so any thoughts there would be appreciated as well.

2Hot4TV 10-18-2008 09:09 AM

The traffic will be the slowest on Huntington Dr. I stay on the 210 and exit at Baldwin and use the race track parking. There is plenty of parking between the race track and the Mall next to the track, they will direct you.

Mass transit in SoCal is only to be used in an emergency like when the car you just stole broke down.

The traffic wont be that bad just alittle slow.

jezebel 10-18-2008 11:19 AM

If you are coming from the west, take Baldwin south (its one exit before Santa Anita) and it runs alongside the stable area. The metro rail won't really work, as the last stop is at Rosemead in Pasadena - Oaktree has said something about Metro providing shuttles, but personally I wouldn't trust that. Friday will be the worst traffic wise (obviously) because you'll be dealing with commuters, but going westbound on the 210, you'll be going against the grain.

westcoastinvader 10-18-2008 07:48 PM

If you are coming from the west, take Baldwin south (its one exit before Santa Anita) and it runs alongside the stable area. The metro rail won't really work, as the last stop is at Rosemead in Pasadena

Thanks a bunch Jezebel and 2HotforTV.

That helps.

I'm really looking forward to my first Santa Anita trip.....and the Breeders' Cup.

letswastemoney 10-18-2008 08:19 PM

5 p.m. traffic ftw!!! Who doesn't love rush hour in Los Angeles?? :)

hi_im_god 10-18-2008 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
There will be thousands of tickets basically being given away outside the track on both days.....with MANY more on Friday.

Even at Churchill there were tons of cheap tickets available outside on Saturday. Hell, we ate one or two.

one of our local radio shows reiterated this point today.

if you want to attend, just show up and someone will have a ticket for you.

Bobby Fischer 10-19-2008 08:47 AM

Lets Discuss the 3 BC Classic INVADERS
 
Duke of Marmalade, Henrythenavigator, Raven’s Pass


I KNOW some of you guys are familiar with these horses, or have an opinion on them regarding the classic?

Lets talk about the 3 invaders in the BC.

Bobby Fischer 10-19-2008 09:10 AM

I think the invaders deserve as much respect and thorough handicapping as is given foreign shippers into races like BC Turf and Turf Mile.

I have some rough ideas about these guys' correct me, debate, offer your own etc...

Duke of Marmalade – might have a little tactical speed, has more experience at distances a little longer than a mile. Seems consistent. Maybe not a top class 12 furlong Turf Horse - but pretty good, and very tough intermediate distances, strong looking solid animal

Henrythenavigator – did he peak around the 2,000 guineas? nice looking horse, game in the stretch, likes a firm ground, Seems very close to Raven's Pass

Raven’s Pass – maybe a slightly later developer, just now reaching a peak? Seemed that riding tactics played a role in duel with HTN? = wanted to get first run..

Coach Pants 10-19-2008 09:17 AM

Oh my god.


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