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Cannon Shell 10-04-2008 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
So you're saying that's a bad place for my IRA?

Good thing for me it would now be considered a conflict of interest.
It is a good place if you are in on the management fees or % of purses, bad if you are the one paying for all of it. Of course a good attorney may be needed at some point so saving the earnings under the mattressmay be a wise choice.

blackthroatedwind 10-04-2008 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
I think narrowing the race down to 2 horses was obvious. Taking the next step to a one number exacta, for the 6:1 payout, wasn't, IMO. GP was coming out of a race where he ran 60+ feet MORE than the winner and lost by 1/2 length. So, for some, hitting this required a BOX. And given it was paying $8 the other way, it didn't quite make sense to get involved. As it was, my criticism of Gomez' ride on GP proved to be somewhat ironic, as, he was guided through an even worse trip today by Garcia. The difference in ability between these two horses is not large enough to allow for poor trips.

As for the idiot going on and on about a 5:2 shot AFTER the fact: what else is there to say?

Gio Ponti was best last time....against terrible horses. Considering the margin in Virginia, the odds were ridiculous, and I said as much on TV today.

I made a token bet on the race because it was the right thing to do considering the exacta prices. I bet 3 times as much on the winning number figuring the worst I rated to do was break even. It hardly covered the rest of my day....though if I played the 3rd a little more cleverly it would have been a great day.

blackthroatedwind 10-04-2008 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by GPK
Oh My God

I think it's " Holy Mother of God. "

eajinabi 10-04-2008 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
I think narrowing the race down to 2 horses was obvious. Taking the next step to a one number exacta, for the 6:1 payout, wasn't, IMO. GP was coming out of a race where he ran 60+ feet MORE than the winner and lost by 1/2 length. So, for some, hitting this required a BOX. And given it was paying $8 the other way, it didn't quite make sense to get involved. As it was, my criticism of Gomez' ride on GP proved to be somewhat ironic, as, he was guided through an even worse trip today by Garcia. The difference in ability between these two horses is not large enough to allow for poor trips.

As for the idiot going on and on about a 5:2 shot AFTER the fact: what else is there to say?
Was there any point to say anything before the race if it was obvious?

blackthroatedwind 10-04-2008 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by eajinabi
Was there any point to say anything before the race if it was obvious?

It certainly was if you were going to carry on with your current BS after the race.

Danzig 10-04-2008 06:45 PM
yes, then you wouldn't be thought of as a red boarder after. or someone who didn't put their money where there mouth is...

paisjpq 10-04-2008 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I think it's " Holy Mother of God. "
what he said

GPK 10-04-2008 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I think it's " Holy Mother of God. "

yeah...at least that.

A f*cking show bet...:zz: :zz:

eajinabi 10-04-2008 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Danzig
yes, then you wouldn't be thought of as a red boarder after. or someone who didn't put their money where there mouth is...


Did I say I even bet? Who wants to red board a 5-2 shot???

I only posted it to prove a point to Ateam who consistently says court vision is slow. If you care to read the whole thread then you will see his remarks prior to the Virginia Derby.

blackthroatedwind 10-04-2008 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by eajinabi
Did I say I even bet? Who wants to red board a 5-2 shot???

I only posted it to prove a point to Ateam who consistently says court vision is slow. If you care to read the whole thread then you will see his remarks prior to the Virginia Derby.

" Constantly???? "

Dude, you dug a thread up from three months ago. I suggest you get a dictionary.

eajinabi 10-04-2008 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by GPK
yeah...at least that.

A f*cking show bet...:zz: :zz:
$600 profit on that bet is good enough for me. I am sorry if it isnt to your standards.

blackthroatedwind 10-04-2008 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by eajinabi
30-1 - $200 show bet with $600 profit is good enough for me. I am sorry if it isnt to your standards.

Were the bills blue, purple, or orange?

the_fat_man 10-04-2008 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Gio Ponti was best last time....against terrible horses. Considering the margin in Virginia, the odds were ridiculous, and I said as much on TV today.

I made a token bet on the race because it was the right thing to do considering the exacta prices. I bet 3 times as much on the winning number figuring the worst I rated to do was break even. It hardly covered the rest of my day....though if I played the 3rd a little more cleverly it would have been a great day.
GP was best again today. CV got a better trip and won (as is often the case in this ****in game). CV is better than the horses GP faced last out and, to his credit, he was able to hold off GP. If the trips are reversed, however, he gets trounced. I can see taking a shot when the odds are right but not for $8 and $14 numbers. By your comments, I get the sense that you feel GP and CV are evenly matched.

blackthroatedwind 10-04-2008 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
GP was best again today. CV got a better trip and won (as is often the case in this ****in game). CV is better than the horses GP faced last out and, to his credit, he was able to hold off GP. If the trips are reversed, however, he gets trounced. I can see taking a shot when the odds are right but not for $8 and $14 numbers. By your comments, I get the sense that you feel GP and CV are evenly matched.
I agree with all your thoughts on the race. I did not think they were evenly matched but I did think the margin was considerably closer than the odds.

I like Gio Ponti, but even with his trip at Del Mar, I was less than thrilled with his performance. I also thought Court Vision might have more upside. But, I surely thought Gio Ponti was a more likely winner, and think so even more after the race.

eajinabi 10-04-2008 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Were the bills blue, purple, or orange?
I know $600 isnt much and i am nowhere near the expert handicappers you guys are. If and only if I can pick the gems you guys consistently post here at 4-5 digit payoffs. School me please.

freddymo 10-04-2008 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I agree with all your thoughts on the race. I did not think they were evenly matched but I did think the margin was considerably closer than the odds.

I like Gio Ponti, but even with his trip at Del Mar, I was less than thrilled with his performance. I also thought Court Vision might have more upside. But, I surely thought Gio Ponti was a more likely winner, and think so even more after the race.
Me Too

blackthroatedwind 10-04-2008 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by eajinabi
I know $600 isnt much and i am nowhere near the expert handicappers you guys are. If and only if I can pick the gems you guys consistently post here at 4-5 digit payoffs. School me please.

So, let me get this straight, after your shenanigans in this thread, you are now trying to play the victim?

You must have read the Trolling Message Boards handbook.

eajinabi 10-04-2008 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
So, let me get this straight, after your shenanigans in this thread, you are now trying to play the victim?

You must have read the Trolling Message Boards handbook.
Well, If you make fun of my grammer, picks, and practicaly anything I write
here then what else should I say?

eajinabi 10-04-2008 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
" Constantly???? "

Dude, you dug a thread up from three months ago. I suggest you get a dictionary.
you are out of arguements. Childish

eajinabi 10-04-2008 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Were the bills blue, purple, or orange?
You are out of arguements. Childish


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