Well I like him!

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...ghlight=utopia

Oh wait... I like all the mediocre ones..... :eek:

Good Lord this is a long thread!

I only read the first 5 pages so forgive me if this was mentioned but Silent Name is pointed to the Met Mile.....

I think you're safe...the middle half was reserved for the obligatory argument;)

Ha ha ha ha, yes i shall catch up on that later! :D

Honestly, don't waste your time.

Continue on Utopia...

Hey, I was just commenting on his handicapping acumen. Crossdressing, calves and the rest of that gay parade--I pass.

I think its good news silent name is running and frankly it makes perfect sense, though he has little chance. A son of Sunday Silence if he could win this race would be very attractive as a stallion. Wont happen but I applaud the connections for making two long trips in a row.

As i couldn't read this soap opera of a thread, was Spring at Last mentioned??

From what I understand, Silent Name is to be at stud here in the U.S. at Adena Springs after this season... I believe that was the original plan. I think it's great for the American breeding industry. We really don't have enough sons of Sunday Silence here at stud in this country. I know there is one here in Florida (Austinpower), but I highly doubt he's getting the book of mares necessary to be successful. Since Silent Name is more accomplished, perhaps he'll have better luck.

I think Utopia is serious...

And will win

G1 winner at 2,3,4,5,Godolphin Mile at 6, 7?????? Met Mile

i think he rode an inside track where he dictated the pace and would bea miracle to win, but as others have pointed out its not a great edition.

I would think Chatain is a good play in that race.

So, you equate Graded Stakes in Japan to those in America?

He will probably not get drowned as badly as Cowtown Cat but the results will be similar.

I'm not here to argue but that G1 in '05 was a pretty tough field.

Seeking the Dia and Time Paradox.... not a huge field (8) but a nice win all the same.....

Considering his form going into it, which was bad, his odds of 4:1 are hardly an endorsement of the overall quality of the field.

His record in the Far East is admirable. His win the other day was mediocre. He is extremely unlikely to be a factor in the Met if he should run.

The rail at Belmont on opening day was golden. If people want to believe Utopia is a legit threat in Met Mile why argue? I thought Sun King ran a strong race considering he did not have a listed workout longer than 4 furlongs prior to the Westchester, and it was his first race since the BC Classic. He was also sandwiched between Political Force who came in on him a few times and the golden rail runner Utopia. I think this race was a good prep for Sun King and I believe he'll improve off this race.

Again, I'm not here to argue but you mention Sun King's first race back since the BC?

This was Utopia's first start since World Cup Day of '06 (March 25)...

Just wanted to mention that.

I definitely equate Graded Stakes in Japan to ours here in America, but only on the grass.

Their top dirt races don't compare to ours, and your point is taken.

Do you not consider him to be competitive at all with this field? You think he will pull a Cowtown Cat and get last?

You keep saying " I'm not here to argue " and then you argue with people.

Pretty silly.

There's nothing wrong with arguing....it's what we do here. Just stop pretending you are somehow above it. You obviously aren't. Join the club.

Obviously it will help to see how the field assembles but I honestly doubt he will be competitive.

He doesn't really need the lead, and just took advantage of the dearth of speed in the Westchester, but it was not a strong bunch ( save Sun King ) and Utopia worked out a VERY advantageous trip.

Last? I don't know but I wouldn't be shocked. Though, if Silent Name runs, he may be a strong contender for that spot.

I will happily join the club and argue if anyone cares to argue about Godolphin, Ace, Fallon, or other things i feel strongly about.

You can think that's what i'm doing. That's cool. I'm just tossing in random thoughts as they occur. I think it's fair to say the last time he ran.....

I like this horse. If he runs, he wins, but that's just my feeling. I'm wrong quite a bit of the time.

Soooo..... wanna fight about Godolphin... saviors of international racing? :D