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Gander 12-02-2009 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
i agree but I wonder how many other guys feel the same way.

I dont know how it is for the older generations, but sex is kinda like brushing your teeth for the younger generations. The #'s and %'s are only getting worse. Maybe it has something to do with religion having less and less influence on the American generations, but it could just be TV & entertainment.

I dont know a single man who even feels close to that. Why would anybody who felt that way even bother with getting married in the first place?

slotdirt 12-02-2009 12:34 PM

By "wrap it up," of course, Scavs means dressing like a pimp on Derby day. That's a sure fire way to gain access into a lady's nether-regions.

Sightseek 12-02-2009 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
By "wrap it up," of course, Scavs means dressing like a pimp on Derby day. That's a sure fire way to gain access into a lady's nether-regions.

hahahahahahaha!

:tro:

Scav 12-02-2009 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
By "wrap it up," of course, Scavs means dressing like a pimp on Derby day. That's a sure fire way to gain access into a lady's nether-regions.

Lock city!

MaTH716 12-02-2009 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Lock city!

Whatever ever happened to the BC timeline/photo's?

Scav 12-02-2009 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
Whatever ever happened to the BC timeline/photo's?

Just too much, the one picture on the BC Vaca thread pretty much explains it all.

slotdirt 12-02-2009 01:35 PM

They could do a reality show with a cast of like a dozen just based on all the girls who have come forward who have rendez-vous'ed with Tiger. Rock of Tiger, anyone?

jms62 12-02-2009 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
I dont know why any married man would go to a club in the first place? As someone who is married and aware and respectful what that word means, its the last place in the world I want to be. I mean its like going shopping with no money or credit cards. Why bother? I would say most married men who frequent upscale clubs do so with the intent to cheat, why else would they possibly put themselves in such a stupidly precarious situation.

:tro: :tro: :tro:

Danzig 12-02-2009 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I think a lot depends on what age you are when you get married and maturity.

I wouldn't be surprised if 75% of young married men (in their 20's) cheated or slipped up once.

I would expect men who marry in their 30's and older to be more ready for marriage and the commitment.. maybe more like 40% of them.

I doubt the percentage of serial cheaters is too too high.. maybe 15% cheat whenever they get the chance and are always looking for the next one.

Women would be opposite though.. I would guess 30-50% of women have cheated at some point.. but I would expect older women to cheat more than younger women.

People get used to the relationship, they have children.. settle into the family life.. only getting laid by their spouse a few times a year cause the "spark" is gone.. and when someone else showers them with affection, people do the wrong thing. Some couples are married for a LONG LONG time..


I'm all for open marraiges or relationships or whatever.. as long as both people are completely okay with it and it doesnt get out of control.

maybe tony and i are the exception, but you couldn't be further from the truth there. and yes, it's a shame that some couples fall into that-or the wife tells hubby she isn't interested anymore, or vice versa. but there are plenty of us out there who treat our husbands like kings, and they treat us like queens. and it's GREAT. i wouldn't give up tony for anything, ever. we make sure we keep each other first.

Rupert Pupkin 12-02-2009 02:16 PM

Unlike most celebrities that sleep with a ton of women before they eventually get married, Tiger did not. Tiger was probably with a total of 2-3 girls before he got married. Most of these celebrities sleep with so many women that it finally gets old and they are ready to settle down. As far as I know, Tiger didn't sleep around at all before he got married. He had that one girlfriend at college who he was with for several years. I believe he started dating Elin relatively soon after this.

I used to go to Las Vegas alot in the 1990s. Tiger was there all the time because he was taking lessons from Butch Harmon (who is based in Vegas) at the time. Tiger was single at the time and would sometimes go out with his friends to clubs. He would talk to girls but he would never go home with any of them. While guys like Charles Barkley would go home with a different girl every night, Tiger would never do that.

Tiger's father was alive at the time and I think he always warned Tiger to be really careful and stay out of trouble.

So Tiger never really had the crazy escapades of most of these celebrities and athletes. Now years later, he probably started to get a little bored and he probably saw a high percentage of his peers cheating while out on the road and he started doing the same thing.

randallscott35 12-02-2009 02:19 PM

Rupert, so you are justifying this behavior. Life is not about how many people you've slept with. No one forced him to get married. The guy is scum in my book. And from what I hear a shoddy tipper as well. Bad signs.

Gander 12-02-2009 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
Unlike most celebrities that sleep with a ton of women before they eventually get married, Tiger did not. Tiger was probably with a total of 2-3 girls before he got married. Most of these celebrities sleep with so many women that it finally gets old and they are ready to settle down. As far as I know, Tiger didn't sleep around at all before he got married. He had that one girlfriend at college who he was with for several years. I believe he started dating Elin relatively soon after this.

I used to go to Las Vegas alot in the 1990s. Tiger was there all the time because he was taking lessons from Butch Harmon (who is based in Vegas) at the time. Tiger was single at the time and would sometimes go out with his friends to clubs. He would talk to girls but he would never go home with any of them. While guys like Charles Barkley would go home with a different girl every night, Tiger would never do that.

Tiger's father was alive at the time and I think he always warned Tiger to be really careful and stay out of trouble.

So Tiger never really had the crazy escapades of most of these celebrities and athletes. Now years later, he probably started to get a little bored and he probably saw a high percentage of his peers cheating while out on the road and he started doing the same thing.


That makes him a dumb ass. He could have had all that action at Stanford, then while he was single girls first few years on the tour, all guilt free and not hurting anyone. So he refuses to get laid when most people do (in college and early 20's) and wont cheat on his college girlfriend, but instead decides to get married and become disloyal to his wife instead, sleeping with four times as many women while hes married than when single....BRILLIANT!

jms62 12-02-2009 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
That makes him a dumb ass. He could have had all that action at Stanford, then while he was single girls first few years on the tour, all guilt free and not hurting anyone. So he refuses to get laid when most people do (in college and early 20's) and wont cheat on his college girlfriend, but instead decides to get married and become disloyal to his wife instead, sleeping with four times as many women while hes married than when single....BRILLIANT!

Ever been to Stanford??? It's no USC chick wise...

Gander 12-02-2009 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Rupert, so you are justifying this behavior. Life is not about how many people you've slept with. No one forced him to get married. The guy is scum in my book. And from what I hear a shoddy tipper as well. Bad signs.

Funny story from the Andre Agassi book about Pete Sampras... Andre and then coach Brad Gilbert were in a restaurant in California and watched as Pete Sampras left the restaurant waiting for the valet to bring him his car. After he drives away, Andre and Brad decide to make a bet on how much money Pete tipped the valet. Brad says I bet that cheap SOB only left him
$5. Andre gulps, and says to Brad, "the guy has made 40 million in prize money. He had to leave him at least $10." So they wander outside and ask the valet the amount Pete left and the valet confesses Pete left him $1. Brad won the bet.

MaTH716 12-02-2009 02:30 PM

So basically the guy sacrificed his youth for the sake of getting where he wanted to be in his career. Now that he's made it huge, he sacrificed his wife and children for the sake of making up those lost years. Sounds pretty selfish to me.

Gander 12-02-2009 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62
Ever been to Stanford??? It's no USC chick wise...

Nope, never been, but you mean to tell me they dont have any attractive women their, that would be willing to shack up with the world's most interesting golf prodigy? I fnd it hard to believe Tiger couldnt do well at Stanford. I have seen some of the women on the Stanford athletic teams and they are a lot better than the girls I went to college with.

slotdirt 12-02-2009 02:32 PM

I don't get why more male athletes don't just do the Jeter thing and remain single in perpetuity.

MaTH716 12-02-2009 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Nope, never been, but you mean to tell me they dont have any attractive women their, that would be willing to shack up with the world's most interesting golf prodigy? I fnd it hard to believe Tiger couldnt do well at Stanford. I have seen some of the women on the Stanford athletic teams and they are a lot better than the girls I went to college with.

Maybe the rumor around campus was that he genetic make up was more from his mothers side than his father.

Rupert Pupkin 12-02-2009 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
That makes him a dumb ass. He could have had all that action at Stanford, then while he was single girls first few years on the tour, all guilt free and not hurting anyone. So he refuses to get laid when most people do (in college and early 20's) and wont cheat on his college girlfriend, but instead decides to get married and become disloyal to his wife instead, sleeping with four times as many women while hes married than when single....BRILLIANT!

As I said, I think his dad put a lot of pressure on him to stay out of trouble. He told him not to be like these other athletes that are sleeping around and getting stories written about them in all the tabloids. At the time, Tiger really did need to be very careful. He was building up his image and his reputation and he was getting all of those endorsement deals. He was really forced to grow up very early.

GPK 12-02-2009 02:40 PM

How many everyday Joes that have cheated know how Tiger feels hearing him tell that chick "my wife went through my phone"?? Hahaha

Gander 12-02-2009 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
As I said, I think his dad put a lot of pressure on him to stay out of trouble. He told him not to be like these other athletes that are sleeping around and getting stories written about them in all the tabloids. At the time, Tiger really did need to be very careful. He was building up his image and his reputation and he was getting all of those endorsement deals. He was really forced to grow up very early.

Since when does getting laid in college equate to being in trouble? Isnt that why most of us go away to college in the first place?

MaTH716 12-02-2009 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
As I said, I think his dad put a lot of pressure on him to stay out of trouble. He told him not to be like these other athletes that are sleeping around and getting stories written about them in all the tabloids. At the time, Tiger really did need to be very careful. He was building up his image and his reputation and he was getting all of those endorsement deals. He was really forced to grow up very early.

I think that's a pretty accurate statement. So much of the game is about metal toughness and focus. Pretty tough consentrating on sinking a 13 foot putt with visions of being gangbanged by a flock of strippers, co-eds, etc......That's most of the reason I suck. Unfortunately I'm thinking about if I forgot to take the garbage cans out and or drop off the dry cleaning and the s.hit I will have to take if that indeed is the case. :o

Also the squeaky clean image help him land all those mega deals. So I do agree that his father kept him and that straight and narrow path.

Rupert Pupkin 12-02-2009 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Rupert, so you are justifying this behavior. Life is not about how many people you've slept with. No one forced him to get married. The guy is scum in my book. And from what I hear a shoddy tipper as well. Bad signs.

No, I'm not justifying his bevavior. I'm simply saying that from a psychological viewpoint, I can understand his behavior. I'm not going to judge the guy. We don't know what's it's like to be Tiger Woods. We don't know what it's like to be one of the biggest celebrities in the world. What he did is clearly wrong. There is no debate about that. But none of us are perfect.

Danzig 12-02-2009 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
I don't get why more male athletes don't just do the Jeter thing and remain single in perpetuity.

good question. hell, tiger's wife knew what she might be getting into by marrying a big time rich celeb....the kids on the other hand have no choice, and have to hope their parents made good choices. it's always the kids who pay for crap like this, and they're just innocent victims.

as for tiger wanting to party it up...bs. life is about choices. instead of him living regretting what he didn't get to do, he should have been thankful for what he had, and relished it. respect is far easier to lose than to gain-or re-gain for that matter.

Sightseek 12-02-2009 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
How many everyday Joes that have cheated know how Tiger feels hearing him tell that chick "my wife went through my phone"?? Hahaha

Am I the only person who would never go through a spouse/significant other's email, phone etc.?

I know a girl who caught her boyfriend cheating on her by breaking into his e-mail and my first response was "what the heck were you doing reading his private e-mail?"

Rupert Pupkin 12-02-2009 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
So basically the guy sacrificed his youth for the sake of getting where he wanted to be in his career. Now that he's made it huge, he sacrificed his wife and children for the sake of making up those lost years. Sounds pretty selfish to me.

I don't think it was a planned thing. I don't think he was thinking that he would behave himself until he was financially set and then do whatever he wants after that. He always tried to be perfect and he did a pretty good job of it for a long time. He just wasn't able to keep it up forever.

Rupert Pupkin 12-02-2009 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Nope, never been, but you mean to tell me they dont have any attractive women their, that would be willing to shack up with the world's most interesting golf prodigy? I fnd it hard to believe Tiger couldnt do well at Stanford. I have seen some of the women on the Stanford athletic teams and they are a lot better than the girls I went to college with.

Tiger's girlfriend while he was at Stanford was a very pretty girl.

Rupert Pupkin 12-02-2009 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Since when does getting laid in college equate to being in trouble? Isnt that why most of us go away to college in the first place?

He had a girlfriend in college. He was happy with her. Why would he have been sleeping around when he had a girlfriend? It's not as if people plan these things. It's not like he knew everything that was going to happen in his life. It's not like he knew he was going to be one of the biggest celebrities in the world. It's not as if he should have been thinking, "I better sleep around alot now because I'm going to get married when I'm in my 20s and then I'll get bored years later." He didn't know exactly how his life was going to play out.

MaTH716 12-02-2009 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
I don't think it was a planned thing. I don't think he was thinking that he would behave himself until he was financially set and then do whatever he wants after that. He always tried to be perfect and he did a pretty good job of it for a long time. He just wasn't able to keep it up forever.

But he screwed up, when it counted the most.

Danzig 12-02-2009 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
But he screwed up, when it counted the most.


and hurt the person he should have cared about the most. i wonder if he thinks it was worth it? i doubt it.

Gander 12-02-2009 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
Tiger's girlfriend while he was at Stanford was a very pretty girl.

I'm sure she wasnt a dog, but my point was if you are going to cheat on someone, make it your girlfriend before your wife. Huge difference. Especially in college. Most men and women arent all that shocked to learn that their college boyfriend or girlfriend cheated.

Bigsmc 12-02-2009 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Am I the only person who would never go through a spouse/significant other's email, phone etc.?

I know a girl who caught her boyfriend cheating on her by breaking into his e-mail and my first response was "what the heck were you doing reading his private e-mail?"

No you are not.

If you trust your partner completely, the thought never crosses your mind. If you are thinking about checking their texts, e-mails and call lists, or have already looked, the trust is gone.

Antitrust32 12-02-2009 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
and hurt the person he should have cared about the most. i wonder if he thinks it was worth it? i doubt it.


Its easy to regret once you get caught. If it wasnt worth it he wouldnt have kept doing it over and over. He's kind of a punk & thats too bad cause he's my favorite athlete ever.

Antitrust32 12-02-2009 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
I'm sure she wasnt a dog, but my point was if you are going to cheat on someone, make it your girlfriend before your wife. Huge difference. Especially in college. Most men and women arent all that shocked to learn that their college boyfriend or girlfriend cheated.

If you are going to cheat on your girlfriend or boyfriend, you will also eventually cheat on your wife or husband.

i very much agree with the statement "once a cheater always a cheater"

MaTH716 12-02-2009 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
If you are going to cheat on your girlfriend or boyfriend, you will also eventually cheat on your wife or husband.

i very much agree with the statement "once a cheater always a cheater"

I kind of disagree with that. So if you cheated on a girl in high school or college, that means you will eventually cheat on your wife? When you are young, you do stupid things (I know I did tons of them). But most of the time people grow up.

Gander 12-02-2009 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
If you are going to cheat on your girlfriend or boyfriend, you will also eventually cheat on your wife or husband.

i very much agree with the statement "once a cheater always a cheater"

Thats ludicrous. I dated a girl in high school and college for 5 years and we both cheated on each other (multiple times) by the end of our relationship. We both moved on, dated other people, then eventually married other people and I have been married 4 1/2 years, and she 8 years. I havent kept up my "cheating ways' and to my knowledge neither has she.

What a dumb thing to think that if you cheat on a girlfriend/boyfriend when you are 19, you'll be inclined to cheat on your wife/husband when you are
35.

Thats the dumbest thing I have read on here in a while.

Sightseek 12-02-2009 03:25 PM

Uncly,
I've come to the conclusion that you do not have much faith in the human race. :)

Scav 12-02-2009 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
No you are not.

If you trust your partner completely, the thought never crosses your mind. If you are thinking about checking their texts, e-mails and call lists, or have already looked, the trust is gone.

I had this crap happen to me about two years ago. Caught her red handed, I got up, put my pants on, and opened the door and said "Adios"

Little did she know that I would become Mr. Chicago

Bigsmc 12-02-2009 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
I had this crap happen to me about two years ago. Caught her red handed, I got up, put my pants on, and opened the door and said "Adios"

Little did she know that I would become Mr. Chicago

Little did anyone know that you would become Mr. Chicago.

GBBob 12-02-2009 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Little did anyone know that you would become Mr. Chicago.

That was part of the deleted stuff from last night...one of the nicer things that was said to Scavarino


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