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Cannon Shell 11-07-2013 02:53 PM

Didnt take long for the league to figure out how to beat the 3 game juggernaut Sixers. They have given up 15 and 18 3 point baskets in their last two losses.

Phoenix is playing really hard too. They had a chance against SA last night but couldnt come up with a stop.

Orlando has a lot of pieces. They are a player or two from being good.

Duvalier 11-07-2013 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 953210)
It doesn't seem to be a sound decision on the face of it.

The games I've watched this year they have played hard but look disjointed on offense.

I think that comes from starting Allen and Prince together...teams are just packing the lane and crowding Gasol and Randolph and at the same time leaving Conley no room to get to the basket. I'm sure they'll eventually adjust but I still don't get the whole metrics thing.

Cannon Shell 11-07-2013 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 953213)
I think that comes from starting Allen and Prince together...teams are just packing the lane and crowding Gasol and Randolph and at the same time leaving Conley no room to get to the basket. I'm sure they'll eventually adjust but I still don't get the whole metrics thing.

They may be better letting Bayless play more with the 1st team. He is the one guy they have that can create his own shot and perhaps loosen up things. I know they like him to anchor the offense when Conley is resting but they need to spread things out.

Cannon Shell 11-07-2013 04:49 PM

http://stats.nba.com/playerTrackingS...&sortOrder=DES

This is really great

Cannon Shell 11-07-2013 04:53 PM

http://stats.nba.com/playerTrackingP...E*20**AST*GE*3


Like you need more proof on the greatness of Paul

RockHardTen1985 11-07-2013 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 953203)
How bout them Cavs! Bad loss last night to a weak team missing TWO starters.

Clearly they are not meshing. Bynums not close. #1 pick is a whale and Waiters I overrated. I still think they are a playoff team, and by playoff time they should be improved and in shape. Anyone but Miami or Indiana they could upset.

Duvalier 11-07-2013 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 953224)

4 of the Blazers starters in the top 25 in Distance Traveled Per Game (miles). They sure aren't racking up those miles by getting back defensively.

Cannon Shell 11-07-2013 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 953228)
Clearly they are not meshing. Bynums not close. #1 pick is a whale and Waiters I overrated. I still think they are a playoff team, and by playoff time they should be improved and in shape. Anyone but Miami or Indiana they could upset.

Chicago and the Nets will sweep them.

Duvalier 11-07-2013 06:18 PM

Watching the NBA on TNT and listening to Charles lol...says the two things you need on a good team are a superstar and a crazy guy. Talking about the Pacers and Lance Stephenson. TNT's pregame show is great.

Cannon Shell 11-07-2013 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 953231)
Watching the NBA on TNT and listening to Charles lol...says the two things you need on a good team are a superstar and a crazy guy. Talking about the Pacers and Lance Stephenson. TNT's pregame show is great.

Best studio show in sports. Not even close

RockHardTen1985 11-07-2013 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 953230)
Chicago and the Nets will sweep them.

Chicago has huge issues, people better start understanding that now. Miami and Indiana are so far ahead of everyone else its not even really worth discussing.

As for your boy Jordan.....2-6, 6 points and 1 block in 30min vs Miami. Miami's only weakness is being soft inside so your boy should dominate.

Cannon Shell 11-07-2013 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 953243)
Chicago has huge issues, people better start understanding that now. Miami and Indiana are so far ahead of everyone else its not even really worth discussing.

As for your boy Jordan.....2-6, 6 points and 1 block in 30min vs Miami. Miami's only weakness is being soft inside so your boy should dominate.

He isnt my boy but they cant do anything in the playoffs unless he plays significantly better. He doesnt play well and they lose. Big surprise.

What are Chicago's issues?

RockHardTen1985 11-07-2013 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 953247)
He isnt my boy but they cant do anything in the playoffs unless he plays significantly better. He doesnt play well and they lose. Big surprise.

What are Chicago's issues?

Chicagos issue. I will start with the basic most obvious ones. They are not nearly as good as Indiana or Miami, but they actually believe they are. Thats a big problem. They are not big enough or tough enough for Indiana. They dont score enough and they again are not tough enough where they think they can bully Miami. They are just not that good. Butler is like this made up version of Paul George. Young and supposed to be good, good defender slasher. But hes not. Hes just not that good. He is a 10-13 point a game scorer who everyone had as a breakout type star. Good luck. Boozer and Deng are exactly what they are. Rock solid, but you are never winning a championship with big Carlos being your #2. These 2 have literally been on the trade block for at least 3 years. NOah, Hinrich, Dunleavy these guys are journey men. None of them do multiple things good. Dunleavy plays no D, but can shoot a little. Hinrich is a joke. Noah plays D and rebounds, Ill give you that but he is literally no threat at all on O.
Biggest problem is D Rose. Dude will never ever ever win a Title. Its Lebrons league for 5 years. Then Durant or Paul George will have a turn. Paul George is only 23 and he is the most exciting player in the NBA other then Lebron. He is a future super star.

RockHardTen1985 11-07-2013 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 953231)
Watching the NBA on TNT and listening to Charles lol...says the two things you need on a good team are a superstar and a crazy guy. Talking about the Pacers and Lance Stephenson. TNT's pregame show is great.

Pacers are really good. They are a 100% legit threat to Miami.
Honestly Oden better be able to give them 20min a game come playoff time or Miami might be in trouble

Cannon Shell 11-07-2013 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 953251)
Chicagos issue. I will start with the basic most obvious ones. They are not nearly as good as Indiana or Miami, but they actually believe they are. Thats a big problem. They are not big enough or tough enough for Indiana. They dont score enough and they again are not tough enough where they think they can bully Miami. They are just not that good. Butler is like this made up version of Paul George. Young and supposed to be good, good defender slasher. But hes not. Hes just not that good. He is a 10-13 point a game scorer who everyone had as a breakout type star. Good luck. Boozer and Deng are exactly what they are. Rock solid, but you are never winning a championship with big Carlos being your #2. These 2 have literally been on the trade block for at least 3 years. NOah, Hinrich, Dunleavy these guys are journey men. None of them do multiple things good. Dunleavy plays no D, but can shoot a little. Hinrich is a joke. Noah plays D and rebounds, Ill give you that but he is literally no threat at all on O.
Biggest problem is D Rose. Dude will never ever ever win a Title. Its Lebrons league for 5 years. Then Durant or Paul George will have a turn. Paul George is only 23 and he is the most exciting player in the NBA other then Lebron. He is a future super star.


LeBron only has a second ring because Ray Allen hit a miracle shot.

Chicago is a talented, well coached team. They will be fine.

Cannon Shell 11-07-2013 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 953252)
Pacers are really good. They are a 100% legit threat to Miami.
Honestly Oden better be able to give them 20min a game come playoff time or Miami might be in trouble

The Pacers are very good. Bird did a great job upgrading the bench.

RockHardTen1985 11-07-2013 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 953262)
LeBron only has a second ring because Ray Allen hit a miracle shot.

Chicago is a talented, well coached team. They will be fine.

Do you watch Shark Tank?? Amazing show... Ill quote my favorite person in the world right now, Mr. Wonderful. Stop the madness!!!
Chuck Game 1 vs of those finals thay Ray Allen won Lebron had a monsterous 18 points 18 rebounds and 10 assists. They lost that game by 4. No one else showed up. Game 4 a pretty much most win being down 2-1 he goes for 33 and 11. Game 5 they lost, again no one else really plays well he goes for 25 8 and 6. And then game 6,7 is NBA history. 32 11 and 10 another triple double in game 6 and the epic game 7 37 and 12. So yes Ray Allen made a big shot, but come on now. Lebron won that thing.

Cannon Shell 11-07-2013 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 953265)
Do you watch Shark Tank?? Amazing show... Ill quote my favorite person in the world right now, Mr. Wonderful. Stop the madness!!!
Chuck Game 1 vs of those finals thay Ray Allen won Lebron had a monsterous 18 points 18 rebounds and 10 assists. They lost that game by 4. No one else showed up. Game 4 a pretty much most win being down 2-1 he goes for 33 and 11. Game 5 they lost, again no one else really plays well he goes for 25 8 and 6. And then game 6,7 is NBA history. 32 11 and 10 another triple double in game 6 and the epic game 7 37 and 12. So yes Ray Allen made a big shot, but come on now. Lebron won that thing.

If Ray Allen doesnt hit the miracle 3 point shot in game 6 San Antonio wins the title. Why is this hard to understand? LeBron is better than most people even realize still but let's not act like Miami swept to the title last year.

rpncaine 11-08-2013 09:16 AM

Miami is in trouble! I've followed the Pacers since ABA days and this is the best all around team here ever. Barring major inuries they will win the East.

Duvalier 11-08-2013 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 953243)
As for your boy Jordan.....2-6, 6 points and 1 block in 30min vs Miami. Miami's only weakness is being soft inside so your boy should dominate.

For you Rock...

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/3/1...t-under-armour


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