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hi_im_god 03-09-2009 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Windfarms kill alot of bats and birds. The windfarm they are putting off the northeast coast is in the middle of major migratory bird routes.

Just saying one has to be careful of the environmental impact of windfarms, too. I do like wind power. Alot.


i had a mockingbird outside my window for close to 5 weeks last spring.

had i known of the option, i'd have built a windfarm.

Danzig 03-10-2009 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
It wont create as nearly many jobs as higher energy prices will eliminate. It will hurt the economy. This is like the first day of Economics 101.

Exactly how many jobs does a wind farm create anyway? I dont know much about them but I did see a report that 90% of alternate energy equipment is produced overseas.

there's a place right here in arkansas that builds those windmills. they're supposed to be expanding their business, but that was last summer/fall that i read that. who knows now?
anyone thinking of learning a new career should look into nursing or engineering. those fields are still screaming for people right now.

Danzig 03-10-2009 06:27 AM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29609567/

this is an article about the still unpassed budget, and that some dems are pushing back against obama's plans here. his tenure won't be the walk in the park some expected with both executive and legislative in the hands of his party.

some excerpts:

One proposal would overhaul the federal student loan program to guarantee yearly increases in the Pell Grant program. That idea enjoys broad Democratic support. But to pay for the Pell Grant expansion, Obama would end federal support for private lending. (yeah, great idea :rolleyes: )



Climate-change legislation is months away from emerging, but some Democrats already worry about the political consequences of creating a cap-and-trade system that could result in higher utility bills. Some House Democrats have floated the issue of tariffs on foreign companies — potentially an explosive trade issue —to equalize the cost of a carbon cap.


Obama's proposal for Medicare means testing has received surprisingly little attention so far, beyond plaudits from Republicans who have supported the idea for years. The debate over an income scale was especially heated when Congress created the Medicare drug benefit, known as Part D, during President George W. Bush's first term. As a senator, Obama voted against a Medicare means-testing proposal in March 2007.

But times have changed, said Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.), who also voted no two years ago. The growing consensus among Democrats that health-care costs must be contained, and that coverage must be expanded to everyone, has redrawn the battle lines. "In the past, we've dealt with Part D on its own, and that tends to be polarizing. So the thought here is, that's much less likely if people think we're all in this together," Baucus said.

Antitrust32 03-10-2009 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot

He has already kept multiple campaign promises - shall we list those?


Tax, Spend, Tax, Spend, Tax, Spend, Give Terrorists rights, allow stem cells (the one good thing)



Did I get it right?

geeker2 03-10-2009 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Aren't genetic mutations part of the process of nature?

"You tell everybody. Listen to me, Hatcher. You've gotta tell them! Soylent Green is people! We've gotta stop them somehow!"


:D


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