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hi_im_god 02-22-2009 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
Bird on a wire dies slowly over a period of time due to the current encased
by the wire they roost upon. In every situation in life, one should be prepared
for any challenges.
i don't know where that rumor got started.

if the bird completes a circuit they die instantly.

otherwise, all of us live in a "nest" surrounded by electricity.

do i need to be worried about my lamp now?

Danzig 02-22-2009 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
how many people posting on this thread have actually used their gun to confront an intruder?

just raise your hand.

now all those with overwrought paranoid fantasies about the dangers of the world and the need for all of us to arm ourselves, please just continue exposing your friends and family to one bad judgement.
but it's ok to have overwrought fantasies about your neighbor owning a gun, and how that's sooo dangerous?
i've had guns around me my entire life. happy to say that my siblings all grew up safely, as have my kids. not one shot fired in anger. can say the same for my extended family, as well as my husbands...

i don't have any fantasies about it one way or the other. but i'm no more comfortable in losing that right as i would be any of the others we're supposed to have guaranteed to us.
if you don't want a gun, you don't have to have one. i'm not forcing ownership on you, and i'd appreciate if you not literally force your feelings about it on me.

timmgirvan 02-22-2009 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
i don't know where that rumor got started.

if the bird completes a circuit they die instantly.

otherwise, all of us live in a "nest" surrounded by electricity.

do i need to be worried about my lamp now?
You should be worried about SOME "circuitry"....I'll leave you to ponder that

hi_im_god 02-22-2009 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Danzig
but it's ok to have overwrought fantasies about your neighbor owning a gun, and how that's sooo dangerous?
i've had guns around me my entire life. happy to say that my siblings all grew up safely, as have my kids. not one shot fired in anger. can say the same for my extended family, as well as my husbands...

i don't have any fantasies about it one way or the other. but i'm no more comfortable in losing that right as i would be any of the others we're supposed to have guaranteed to us.
if you don't want a gun, you don't have to have one. i'm not forcing ownership on you, and i'd appreciate if you not literally force your feelings about it on me.
mine isn't an overwrought fantasy.

it's a fact. anyone owning a gun is more likely to kill an acquaintance or themselves than a stranger.

the fantasy is that the problem lies in the stunning lack of guns in this country. we just haven't armed ourselves well enough.

anyone here that wants to protect their family would be better served by getting rid of the guns in their house.

that isn't a personal attack. it's a statistic.

hi_im_god 02-22-2009 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
You should be worried about SOME "circuitry"....I'll leave you to ponder that
stop with the comic relief.

Danzig 02-22-2009 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
mine isn't an overwrought fantasy.

it's a fact. anyone owning a gun is more likely to kill an acquaintance or themselves than a stranger.

the fantasy is that the problem lies in the stunning lack of guns in this country. we just haven't armed ourselves well enough.

anyone here that wants to protect their family would be better served by getting rid of the guns in their house.

that isn't a personal attack. it's a statistic.
like i said somewhere above, since most murder victims know their killer, you're right. i have no idea tho the #'s of folks killed accidentally. i also read and posted on here that 55% of gun deaths each year are suicide. but our suicide rates are in line with other countries.

at any rate, this thread has been a long one. props to everyone for keeping it relatively clean...
at any rate, i doubt any minds were changed one way or the other- or that they ever will be.

Antitrust32 02-23-2009 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Payson Dave
While realizing that what is posted in this thread is not likely to change anyone's opinion on the issue of gun control and/or the right to bear arms.........I'd still like to ask a couple of rhetorical questions

If my pursuit of happiness does not infringe upon yours or anyone else's pursuit of happiness what business is it of yours??

If a ban of semi-automatic weapons is "necessary for the good of society" then why not ban V8 engines....why not ban sports cars....why not ban alcohol... why not ban tobacco...while we are at it, maybe we better ban prescription pain killers... how about all forms of gambling... do we really need gay sex?

Arguing what should or should not be legal based upon what is strictly necessary for the good of society may well be a slippery slope...

Banning anything that can be linked to criminal activity can also be a pretty slippery slope...

Perhaps the concepts of "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" & "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth", are not entirely bad concepts...
i do!

Antitrust32 02-23-2009 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
how many people posting on this thread have actually used their gun to confront an intruder?

just raise your hand.

now all those with overwrought paranoid fantasies about the dangers of the world and the need for all of us to arm ourselves, please just continue exposing your friends and family to one bad judgement.

I never have, but could have used one when I was robbed at gunpoint!

Eventhough running away screaming and crying was probably a better option than pulling out a gun and challenging the homeboy to a fight.

timmgirvan 02-23-2009 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I never have, but could have used one when I was robbed at gunpoint!

Eventhough running away screaming and crying was probably a better option than pulling out a gun and challenging the homeboy to a fight.
You need one of those derringer harnesses that release into your palm when trouble shows up! Yeah...that's the ticket.

Antitrust32 02-23-2009 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
You need one of those derringer harnesses that release into your palm when trouble shows up! Yeah...that's the ticket.

it happened at like 4am July 4th (well technically the 5th by then). We had a KEG of jack n coke... so I was very much not sober.

I called the cops (they didnt do anything but I reported my purse (which had my wallet, phone and all ID's and passport in it, stolen) and when the cop came to talk to me I was like "I wish I had a gun I would have shot him!!" (not a good thing to say to the cops I imagine)

But yeah... no point in getting into a gun fight when I can just give him my purse and run!!

SOREHOOF 02-23-2009 03:23 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,498445,00.html Maybe we need to take a closer look at the dangers of television. I'm not advocating an all out ban, but maybe there need to be more restrictions, or at least a waiting period and background check prior to purchase.

Payson Dave 02-23-2009 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
i do!

:D :D the gay sex line was included tongue in cheek just or you. :D

hi_im_god 02-23-2009 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Payson Dave
:D :D the gay sex line was included tongue in cheek just or you. :D
wrong. try elsewhere.

Antitrust32 02-24-2009 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Payson Dave
:D :D the gay sex line was included tongue in cheek just or you. :D
:D

AeWingnut 02-24-2009 12:10 PM
it is better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have one

SniperSB23 02-24-2009 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by AeWingnut
it is better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have one
Not sure if Plaxico Burress would agree with you on that one.

timmgirvan 02-24-2009 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Not sure if Plaxico Burress would agree with you on that one.
ya needs to have a brain too!;)

SniperSB23 02-24-2009 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
ya needs to have a brain too!;)
If they made that a requirement to get a gun I'd feel a lot safer!

timmgirvan 02-24-2009 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
If they made that a requirement to get a gun I'd feel a lot safer!
...as would we all;)

AeWingnut 02-24-2009 03:44 PM
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