these are the nd fans i remember growing up in chi town..but.. alabama fans are just as bad..nd hasent done well in a long time..so let them be excited..if they have to play an sec team they wont know what hit them..

oh, i know. i don't blame them for being excited. but excitment is one thing, acting like they are a team that has been heaven sent is another. i was happy we were lucky to get in a few years' back, i didn't make out like lsu could walk on water. they benefitted from everyone else losing, so they could get in with two losses. you know, like dame is benefitting from others losing.
and i'm sick of bama, so i hope the dogs beat them. i don't like lying nick, especially when i was one of the ones defending him when he was still at miami. learned my lesson.

lsu really did beat bama..save that last play...lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjW9UXoKU2s

THANK YOU! THAT'S WHAT i'm trying to point out. they just don't pass they eye test in my book! that schedule fell completely apart in nd's favor.

kind of like those noles this weekend ;)

Gators may be the best team in the country. Too bad they played such a terrible game against Georgia. and still at the end the WR was running in for a TD and fumbled near the goal line.

Would have loved to see a Bama vs Gators match up this year in the SEC championship game.

Since the Gators are the only SEC team I care for, I guess I'll go with ND here on out, just hoping we dont have ANOTHER SEC team as national champ.

Notre Dame is a damn good football team too. They still beat everyone they played, and their schedule may not have been tough like Florida, but it was still a respectable schedule and the did what needed to be done.

Really, really, like ND's coach.. wish he'd be the Eagles coach next year, though I cant see anyone leaving ND for a team like the eagles.

NOTRE DAME 13.... BAMA 26.... GEORGIA SOMEWHERE IN THE 60'S.
THATS THE SCHEDULE STRENGTH NUMBERS. JUST STOP, PLEASE.

Dude I dont know if your one of these people who think someone can mush, but your good. Notre Dame is winning this thing, and building for the future. They have the 3rd best class on rivals and top 5 on foxsports. These SEC homers are a joke.

Are you people serious? How about this.... Stanford is better then any team Georgia beat. They are right there w/ Florida.

With the Dawgs opening at +7 1/2 today I'm not sure what the right play is, but i think it's a good number. UGA is on a peak right now if you look at the last three games (forget GA Southern), because Richt has let the offense play instead of protecting a lead. I believe Sabin has more big game experience, and has the edge, but the Dawgs are better than many think. Would not be surprised to see them squeak by the Gumps and beat the golden boys.

i will say, that i agree that bama is overrated. but my point is that so is notre dame by their fans.

and in the top ten, on strength of schedule, fla and lsu had tougher than the top three did.

not sure why everyone is so convinced sabin will sweep the two games. anyone here know ol' nickys lifetime bowl record???

7 and 6. that's not a typo.

as for stanford...they lost to washington, who lsu crushed like they were 1-aa.

Who the fuc* has Georgia beat this year? One good team in Florida.
Buffalo?
Missouri?
Florida Atlantic?
Vanderbilt?
Tennessee?
South Carolina?? O wait, they got blown out 35-7
Kentucky?? Barely
Ole miss??
Auburn?
Georgia southern??
Georgia tech?

Notre dame beat Stanford and Oklahoma, both who could have won every game on that schedule. Florida would have been tough, but not unbeatable.

This type of comparison never works in football. Ever.

As for Saban's bowl record, he's 4-1 in either BCS games or the NCG. That's pretty good.

I don't believe in that stuff. People were telling me to take it easy and my buddies were talking **** saying I better not overlook usc and I told them I will overlook whoever I want and think about the possibly of the championship because I am simply a fan. Nothing I do or say will have any outcome on the game. I'm just here to enjoy the ride.

GO IRISH!

People want to laugh and rag on notre dame for playing wake forest and navy, but Georgia and Alabama have played teams this year that navy would be double digit favorites over. This is when blind hatred comes into play.

when i read your bs about a woman on here being on ignore, i was hoping you meant me. but you were probably just making all that up. you know, like everything.
i've read several sites regarding sos. not sure where you're getting your numbers, you sure you're in the right year?

no, it's not blind hatred. everyone here knows that every team has some softballs. there's more to schedules than the bad teams. there's more to a schedule than one or two good teams also. and that's what nd faced. and it's not that they play cupcakes, it's that they barely beat them. ot's. 3 point margins. against cupcakes.
you want to call it hatred, i call it realistic. like i said, enjoy it. just don't think that nd could handle an nfl team any more than bama could. or usc a few years back.

I've never thought this years ND team is unbeatable or the greatest ever. I said they are pretty damn good and get no respect. Alabama may be better than them, but on January 7 they won't be. This team is all about winning, whether its be 3 or 30 their motto out of Kelly's mouth is find a way to win. He said he could have tried putting up style points and opening te offense up but that's not who they are and it would be a disservice to the team. They hit you in the mouth on defense and hit you in the mouth on offense with their run game.

Crow time.

More crow.

Coach is getting his fill of crow right now I'm sure!

Hossy actually gave notre dame some respect a little over half way through the season.

5 posts in a row?

Come on Man!

i disagree, they get more than their share of attention. i am surprised at so many who think bama has it all wrapped up. everyone ought to know that nothing is a sure thing in football. just look at cleveland beating pittsburgh for example. or kstate and oregon going down a couple weeks ago.
i guess it comes down to ND having had so many close calls this year? that and people thinking others would finish ahead of them, and they wouldn't get into the title game.
and i'm not sure about mottos coming out of kellys mouth, but i don't care for the guys histrionics. but then, i always thought petrino was an ass, spurrier is another who rankles, and nick is also over the top at times. no need to completely lose your mind on the sidelines.

No it was not you. You were the gem I spoke of earlier in this thread. No need to thank me.

Go for 10. His team is about to win a National Title.

The Heard today....... around 1115

men lie, woman lie, the rock lies........the numbers dont. Notre Dame played a better schedule then both SEC teams.

ND is not only the most hated team but the most popular as well. That makes them special simply because as Danzig has pointed out money is more important than fairness in college football. The schedule they play is fine. They are an indepenent and have to play who they can schedule. Lets face it there are 5 good SEC teams and the rest stink. Some of the teams that they are playing in November is embarrasing. (Jacksonville state, Western Carolina)

Florida needed a miracle to beat LA-Lafeyette at home a few weeks ago so no tears for them.

IMO Alabama is the best team in the country but they have so many built in advantages that they can't complain about the system.

IMO Notre Dame might be the 7th or 8th best team.

BUT the fact is ND has done what the system rewards and by not losing they get their chance. They are the one team that will get a fair chance to win the title. Alabama will probably beat GA and get a chance though I'm not sure that they deserve the chance more than many of the other 1 loss teams or even A & M who beat them on their home field. That is the issue that I have always had with the BCS especially when compared to the basketball tourney. Be realistic if you arent an SEC team you have to go undefeated and even then you better be from a big conference and start off the year ranked. Why have 124 Div 1 teams if only 12 (or less) have any prayer of winning the title?

No they didnt schedule any terrible teams like the SEC teams do but most of the teams they played this year outside of Stanford had down or average years. Some of them had terrible years. The schedules are meaningless for the most part.

and god knows he's never, ever wrong.

You just broke the lie meter with this one.

I still give them credit for doing what they did. When all is said and done I think they are still the third best team I have seen this year, but they should be commended for getting through the season undefeated. I doubt many people thought they could do it.

You called it from day one, and I can certainly appreciate that. Enjoy the ride.

But your approach today just reinforces what a lot of people dislike about ND...which is their fans.

7th or 8th best? Who are the 6 or 7 teams better?

I strongly dislike her. Just like a lot of people dislike me and insult me. Shes not blocked and never was. The gem was not in a good way.

So who was the mystery person (I believe you said they were female) that talks about you, that some made up person sends you pms whenever they say something about you?

Methinks you have your lies confused. Funny when that happens.

My approach made me a bad fan? I'm sorry I don't just sit back and ignore the constant bashing that has gone on in this thread. When someone says a 12-0 team couldn't beat anyone in the top 10 I'm going to come out firing. Find something bad I said today that wasn't provoked.

The me against the world mentality is kind of silly man. I never said you were a bad fan. I said your approach today, is what turns a lot of people off to ND. The underdog, we get no respect, everyone who can't quote Rudy word for word is a hater stuff is what makes people dislike ND. Mostly because none of it is true and is perpetuated by their fans who can't understand why everyone else doesn't "get it."

Obviously the not beating anyone in the top 10 comment was ridiculous and people called it out.

I think you're taking some of this stuff to heart, when it's not meant to. Your board name is IrishofNDman dude. You have to expect a little needling about ND for that reason alone, right?

I grew up with my family liking notre dame and a couple friends. Being from michigan I am surrounded by state and wolverine fans who hate and I mean hate notre dame. Maybe growing up hearing **** from them constantly gave me the us against the world mentality... Maybe someone like Rick Reilly writing that article about ND being irrelevant gives us that mentality. I dish it out and expect it back, if you think this is bad you should see the shi* I've gotten into on Facebook with people. Alcohol and the Internet don't mix too well haha

Last thing for the night, if Manti Teo doesn't win the heisman then that award is officially offensive players only. I honestly think they will give it to him and he is well deserving of it. He embodies what a college athlete should be on and off the field, class act.

I agree with all of this with one exception. I think Notre Dame might be the 10th or 11th best team. If they were playing today, I would take Alabama, Stanford, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Ohio St, Oregon, South Carolina, and Texas A&M over them and maybe Florida St. I think Georgia beats them by at least 10 and Bama by at least 17.