That's a shame. I'm sure the people of Detroit were expecting some people in town next weekend for the event. They'll be upset the event was cancelled.

I really need Michigan State to win this one for me.

Concerned the whistle is gonna start blowing

Oklahoma +305
150/457.50

Hoping for a Carmelo-like takeover.

Tom Izzo has been there,
done that.

Gritty team as always.

He's got the most rebounds in a single season since 1984 going into today. The thing with him is he's so efficient. Doesn't have to take 20 shots a game to get his points.

This is the worst national championship game ever.

I read that his flexibility is very good.
He has some big muscles and it seems
to inhibit some guys but apparently not him.

He does appear to tire rather quickly for
all the workouts he partakes in. Maybe too much
strength stuff and not enough endurance. And his
defense is lazy, but this is very easy to fix.
His arms do not appear to be excessively long,
but his hands are very good and extremely strong
so this helps.

imo totally the Blake Griffin draft.

Maybe Cannon's cuz has a shot at him...

Shaq may be the strongest person in the US let alone the NBA.
Griffin is a lock to be the number 1 pick. Rubio may not declare this year.
This is a terrible draft class. Turrable as Charles Barkley says

they better start losing more

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQvpw...layer_embedded

Ricky Rubio

Peegarden will hate him

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/597/story/630789.html

Stephen Curry's brother is transferring to Duke.

Trojans were playing some good ball.

No surprise that the squad which took them out made it to the final weekend.


Would luv to see them and Nova play for the title...

:tro:

I saw him in the Olympics.
I saw him school some of the best
in the NBA. The kid is very good.

OK.
So he does not play D.
Lightning moves and sees the floor.
He is still a teenager.

If he goes in the draft,
I would think he must be the first PG taken.

Personally, I also love the kid from Syracuse.
I will take him before Curry or Mills. The kid
coming over from Italy (skipping college) I dont
know anything about how he has been playing.
I think he is a PG.

I also take Lawson before Curry or Mills,
but not before the kid from Cuse.

The illegitimate Spanish son of Pete Maravich?? The hair and body are identical at least!

I'm a big Jonny Flynn fan, but Ty Lawson will be a better NBA point guard than Flynn IMO. He's quicker, stronger and a better shooter.

Pgardn should be shot for making that statement. Lawson is special.

Rubio can play. He needs refinement but he has tons of experience for a 19 year old. If he can get where he can hit an open jumper on a consistent basis he will be very good. His ceiling is very high.

Flynn, Lawson, Mills are all so/so prospects. Curry is not really a PG.

I think Lawson is interesting because of his speed and quickness though his push it up style doesnt fit the NBA very well. He also has an awkward looking shot which will be harder to get off in the pros against much better defenders and few zone defenses. He will be a liability on defense and he also always seems to be injured. College is a 38 game schedule including the preseason tune ups. The NBA is 81 + 10 preseason games, and countless playoff games for the right teams. Can he stay healthy for that long?

Mills is also extremely fast though is not a great shooter and needs to improve. Flynn is a tough kid but isnt really good enough to be an NBA starter.
I dont know who to compare Curry to. There really has never been a player exactly like him and while he is an excellent spot up shooter he is not a good defensive player and really has no idea of how to run an NBA style offense. I think if he gets on the right team he can be effective in a Steve Kerr type role.

I think he's a carbon copy of Chris Jackson. Scariest player I've ever played against.

I think Lawson will have a decent pro career. Probably not destined to be an all-star or anything like that but can provide something in the 12-15 point, 6-8 assist per night range.

One guy I love that's not getting any mention is Lester Hudson. Reminds me a lot of Rodney Stuckey but he's better.

I think Flynn has a huge upside.
He played on a team with a bunch of shooters.
I love his body type, sinew and all muscle.

And he is a quick as any PG in the draft. He may not be as
fast, but in the NBA, starting stopping and changing
direction is huge. Lawson scares me for one reason.
He plays with the best talent. He got his looks.
He got the open lane. Flynn was much more of
a distributer with less talent on his team.

Rubio uber alles.

I dont think he is near the ahtlete Jackson was. I think Lawson has a chance to be Raymond Felton the 2nd. A bottom 1/3rd of the league PG on a weak team. Didn't Hudson declare last year and go back to school?

Jonny Flynn should stay in school another year. For a guy who played with shooters he only avged 6 assista a game despite playing an avg of 38 mins a game.

For assists you want guys that go to the hole.
Assists in college tell you want kind of offense you run.

Where does Thabeet go?
Anyone?

In the Lottery somewhere. He is really big. Too bad he has no offense.

Felton has averaged:
14.0 and 7.0
14.4 and 7.4
13.7 and 6.8 this season

Those aren't great but they are respectable and even a little bit more when you look at the team he plays for. The Bobcats are the second lowest scoring team in the league and points are at a premium there. I don't agree with you in him being in the bottom third. I'd put him in the top 15.

I'm not sure what kind of athlete Curry is but I know he's a big time player. Seeing what he did against major competition was enough to let me know that. Watching him this year was even more impressive. I thought he made a very smooth transition to point guard. He had a lot of turnovers but the more I watched, the more I became convinced that it was more his teammates fault than his. They seemed like they were never able to catch his passes but his passes were often on the mark. I think he's going to be able to hit the NBA and give a team 15+ a night and I think he might make a bigger contribution as a second team point guard because he's going to be much better than what any opponent will bring in.

I don't know about Hudson declaring last year but I think any team will be lucky to have him. He's only 6-2 but he's such a great athlete. He rebounds like he's 6-8. I know his league is full of suspect competition but over the past two seasons, he's gone for 35 and 10 boards against Memphis, 27-11 against Mississippi St, 26-11 against UNLV, 36-9 against Vanderbilt, and 33-12 against Auburn. That's getting it done. Last year, he had 11 double-doubles and two triple-doubles (one of them a quadruple). This year, 11 more double-doubles. He's also had 10 games where he missed a double-double by just one rebound. Now, I don't expect him to produce like that in the NBA and of course, he won't be putting up 7+ boards a night in the league but there are some guys that are undersized that just have a knack for how to get it done. Guys like Lafayette Lever and Jason Kidd. Guys like Rajon Rondo and Russell Westbrook, both guys in that 6-1 to 6-3 range that average around five boards a game.

Felton's the guy that I think of too, though I think Lawson is a little better. I don't think Felton's a bottom third point guard though. He's in the top half at the least.

Fat Lever was really a PG.
Rondo has a lot of help, still lacks the jumper.
Kidd is pure PG, he runs the show (past tense now, I
think physically he has really declined).

Westbrook has suprised the hell out of me.
He is such a great athlete it helps him quite a bit.
I still think he is 2 though.

Ok. I'm not saying Hudson is a point guard though.

I think that Curry has one strength, shooting open shots. Nothing else he does is very good. He is not an NBA point guard. Just because he handled the ball against a bunch of 2nd raters doesnt mean he can play the position. West virginia had guys with length which he will be matched up with at the next level and he absolutely was awful. He is a mirage. When people talk about a guy being a player and having intangibles, i cringe. Because those guys almost never make it at the next level. Curry does not have the physical gifts to be a factor in the NBA. If he goes to a team that can use him properly, as a spot up shooter playing off of another good scorer he will be ok. If someone tries to make him a point guard they will be really disappointed.


PG's better than Felton
Chris paul
Deron Williams
Tony Parker
Chauncey Billips
Steve Nash
Baron Davis
Jasn Kidd
Gilbert Arenas
Mike Bibby
Jamal Crawford
Rajon Rondo
Derrrick Rose
Devin Harris
Jameer nelson
Mo Williams
Allen Iverson
Andre Miller
Jason Terry
TJ Ford
Jose Calderon

ok the last 2 are stretches

Felton is just ok though I admit it is hard to sit through an entire Bobcats game so I rarely see him much.

Blake Griffin is bigger than Tony Gonzalez, stronger than Tony Gonzalez, faster than Tony Gonzalez, and jumps higher than Tony Gonzalez. Assuming he can catch a football the NFL is losing out on a heck of a TE.

More than the last two are stretches. So in my mind he's 11th at best and 13th at worst.

I think you are underestimating Andre Miller. The Sixers wouldnt even be in playoff contention if he weren't here.

Even though he can probably bench more than Shaq.
He will be the 2nd strongest player in the NBA as a 20 year old.
He is a monster athlete.

Gilbert Arenas, Allen Iverson, Jason Terry points...
not.


Move Baron Davis way down now.
Ulcers and he has gone Hollywood.
He does not even like basketball anymore imo.

I also like Andre Miller.
Even though he is fairly slow he is as strong
as any on that list.

Apparantly you have too busy hating on Lebron to watch Mo Williams this year. Maybe? Please, it isn't even close. Bibby is easily better player and JKidd is still better than Felton. Jason Terry is a better player than Felton, unquestionably. Jamal Crawford is a better player than Felton though he is better suited to 2 guard. Allen Iverson? Come on be serious.

Allen Iverson is a great point guard? In what sport? Kidd and Terry are washed up and Bibby's average. And there's no hating on LeBron, he's a great player but his inability to consistently make jumpers will kill the Cavs in the playoffs once again if the games are officiated fairly.

No way. Shaq is almost inhuman. Wait till you see them standing next to each other. Griffin if Griffin learns to shoot FT's and can get a decent face up jumper he will be an All Star. Soon.