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pgardn 01-19-2009 04:59 PM

Philly is lucky to have him.
He is a damn good QB.

But...
For anyone who actually watched the game,
McNabb was bad in the first part of the game.
He missed, underthrew and overthrew open receivers,
two of which would have been touchdowns after the run.
14-6 would have been 14-14.

He got in rythym and was very, very good. He was putting
short and long passes right on the money allowing receivers
to catch in stride and make even more yardage. He was also
given very good protection for most of the game. He had
eons of time to hit some very wide open receivers.

The next to last drive (last drive there was, what 9 secs left?)
he again made some bad passes but then came through hitting
Curtis on the money. Pass interference. I really thought the Eagles
offense as a whole played well considering Westbrook half speed.
But Warner and Fitzgerald ripped them a new one. The D was
beaten by a very hot team offensively. The Cardinals really are
playing very well offensively. Pittsburg had better hit Warner
in the mouth all game or they too will get scored on.

ONe thing no one has really talked about.

A. Boldin screaming at the Cards offensive Coordinator
IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FCKN GAME WHILE HE IS MAKING
CALLS??????

I would give him a good bhatch slap up side the head and run.
The O-lineman on the Cards should have physically
sat his butt down. You dont screw with the offensive coord.
while the offense is on the field and he is trying to make
calls. That was absolutely absurd, worse than TO behavior.

ddthetide 01-19-2009 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
Fans don't give a damn how much money teams make. All they want is championships. It also doesn't help when all the other teams in your division(that you despise) have had success multiple times. They have been close for a while, they needed to close the deal this time. You might call it a successful season. I guess you can say that based on their playoff chances being on life support late in the season. But realistically (in my opinion, which means zilch) they are the better team, and were within 7 minutes of going to Tampa. They couldn't close the deal and get it done with that supposedly vaunted defense they have. That last 7 minutes turned an argueably successful season, into another bitter failure. And questions of what could of been.

i think the eagles and ravens were out of gas.they were both playing for the lives the last couple weeks and needed help to make the playoffs. you can only keep that up for so long.

ddthetide 01-19-2009 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I know you aren't blaming McNabb. I agree a good portion of the loss is on the D. But, on that final drive, when the Tom Brady's of the world take over, McNabb didn't.

i'll agree DM might not take control all the time he should. his mates don't always help him by making a play or catch when he needs it. at times i don't think reid's play sequences are very good either.

i shouldn't say this but DM in a viking uni and the viks would be a Very dangerous team. imo.

MaTH716 01-19-2009 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide
i think the eagles and ravens were out of gas.they were both playing for the lives the last couple weeks and needed help to make the playoffs. you can only keep that up for so long.

I agree with the Ravens. They aren't built to come from behind, let alone against a defense like Pittsburgh. But for the Eagles it's inexcuseable. You hear alot about their defense all year long (with good reason). You have the lead with seven minutes left and the NFC championship on the line. You have to get it done, tired or not. Opportunities like this don't come often. It wasn't like they were on the field alot in the second half. The defense was dominant for 23 plus minutes in the second half, but it was the last 7 which costed them a trip to Tampa.

Smooth Operator 01-20-2009 10:53 AM

Ah, yet another championship failure for Fat Andy & Co.


What else is new...




And it looks like Fat Andy and Don will be back for another go next season.






Isn't that special..........................






By the way, on a side note, certainly no surprise to see that the Stillers best player (#43) is an SC product. :cool:

Antitrust32 01-20-2009 10:56 AM

Booth Operator.... Dont make me like you now!!! :D

declansharbor 01-20-2009 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator
Ah, yet another championship failure for Fat Andy & Co.


What else is new...




And it looks like Fat Andy and Don will be back for another go next season.






Isn't that special..........................






By the way, on a side note, certainly no surprise to see that the Stillers best player (#43) is an SC product. :cool:


Get a clue, would ya?

dalakhani 01-20-2009 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator
Ah, yet another championship failure for Fat Andy & Co.


What else is new...




And it looks like Fat Andy and Don will be back for another go next season.






Isn't that special..........................






By the way, on a side note, certainly no surprise to see that the Stillers best player (#43) is an SC product. :cool:


Okay, Okay....just for full disclosure Smooth. Did you go to USC?

Antitrust32 01-20-2009 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Okay, Okay....just for full disclosure Smooth. Did you go to USC?


think about this question for a second Dala.... you have to be very smart to get into USC.... what do you think?

Smooth Operator 01-20-2009 01:32 PM

A full decade now of the Fat Andy and Don show in Philly ... and still no ring in sight.


Ya don't have to be a genius to figure this out, declansharbor. Heck, even Anti-thirst32 should have this one figured out by now.



But, just for fun, let's consult a genius anyway:



Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. -- Albert Einstein

Antitrust32 01-20-2009 01:40 PM

your preaching to the choir Mr. Booth. Don is talented but cant take us to the promise land. Big Red cant either.



Off topic - isnt choir a weird word when you write it? Should be like quier or something.

declansharbor 01-20-2009 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator
A full decade now of the Fat Andy and Don show in Philly ... and still no ring in sight.

Ya don't have to be a genius to figure this out, declansharbor. Heck, even Anti-thirst32 should have this one figured out by now.



But, just for fun, let's consult a genius anyway:



Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. -- Albert Einstein

5 NFC championships and 1 SB loss is no ring in sight??? I'd guess that 95% of the league wishes they were this 'successful'. We'll get to the next level, and when we do, your not allowed to celebrate. :rolleyes:

gales0678 01-20-2009 01:43 PM

funny Tom Coughlin and the Eli would be getting killed last week if not for winning the ring last year

There would be a good chance Tom would no longer be coaching the Giants if Tyree didn't make that catch

Reid is a better coach than Coughlin - there is no question in my mind about that

MaTH716 01-20-2009 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
funny Tom Coughlin and the Eli would be getting killed last week if not for winning the ring last year

There would be a good chance Tom would no longer be coaching the Giants if Tyree didn't make that catch

Reid is a better coach than Coughlin - there is no question in my mind about that

Coughlin probably secured his job with the win at Dallas. And say what you want about Eli. He did suck against the birds, but when they needed him against the Pats he came through. It might have been a flukey play, but he still avoided the sack and made the pass.

Maybe Reid is or maybe he isn't a better coach, but there is no denying that Coughlin is the one with the hardware.

Antitrust32 01-20-2009 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
5 NFC championships and 1 SB loss is no ring in sight??? I'd guess that 95% of the league wishes they were this 'successful'. We'll get to the next level, and when we do, your not allowed to celebrate. :rolleyes:


come on declan... we're philly.. we have to have those types of views, its in our blood.

You trying to say that if and when we win, all those philly fans who were down on reid or mcnabb cant celebrate??? You'd be celebrating alone big guy!! :D

(Gosh I sure hope we win someday)

declansharbor 01-20-2009 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
come on declan... we're philly.. we have to have those types of views, its in our blood.

You trying to say that if and when we win, all those philly fans who were down on reid or mcnabb cant celebrate??? You'd be celebrating alone big guy!! :D

(Gosh I sure hope we win someday)

I know, I know. Thats why Im having my own parade. My stark naked run down Cottman Ave accompanied by a big blow up menu to Geno's Steaks. (my salute to Big Red)

My timer is already set to the draft. Can't wait for NFL Network to start showing the combine. I could just scream right now.

MaTH716 01-20-2009 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
I know, I know. Thats why Im having my own parade. My stark naked run down Cottman Ave accompanied by a big blow up menu to Geno's Steaks. (my salute to Big Red)

My timer is already set to the draft. Can't wait for NFL Network to start showing the combine. I could just scream right now.

OMG, he's getting delusional. Quick someone has to get over to his house and either put on the Phillies championship DVD or the Fashion channel ASAP!

declansharbor 01-20-2009 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
I know, I know. Thats why Im having my own parade. My stark naked run down Cottman Ave accompanied by a big blow up menu to Geno's Steaks. (my salute to Big Red)

My timer is already set to the draft. Can't wait for NFL Network to start showing the combine. I could just scream right now.

I failed to mention that I might need someone to carry my walker behind me. :eek:

gales0678 01-20-2009 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
Coughlin probably secured his job with the win at Dallas. And say what you want about Eli. He did suck against the birds, but when they needed him against the Pats he came through. It might have been a flukey play, but he still avoided the sack and made the pass.

Maybe Reid is or maybe he isn't a better coach, but there is no denying that Coughlin is the one with the hardware.

say they lost to the pats , after stinking it up against the Eagles my bet would have been Coughlin gone , now giants and their fans are stuck with him for 3 more yrs

he was horrible against philly now twice in the playoffs and horrible against carolina in the playoffs

Eli Manning has yet to win a playoff game at home - he is 0-2 , both years they had better teams than the teams they lost too

Manning has looked horrible in the meadowlands in Jan , not a lot of qb's do well there in the swirling winds and now he is going to get 100mm plus

declansharbor 01-20-2009 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
say they lost to the pats , after stinking it up against the Eagles my bet would have been Coughlin gone

Interesting. Especially with the threat of Spags leaving them.

So what your saying is that TC can thank Asante Samuel and David Tyree for his job.

MaTH716 01-20-2009 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
say they lost to the pats , after stinking it up against the Eagles my bet would have been Coughlin gone

I disagree. He would have still got the extention after the Super Bowl. Granted it wouldn't have been pretty around here. And he would have been on the hot seat going into next season. But to fire him in a season where they started 11-1, with losing their 2 best pass rushers before the season and then the whole Plax situation is a bit unfair. The Mara's are usually a pretty classy/loyal group and wouldn't have dumped Coughlin just to bring in Spags (if that's what you were thinking) or anyone else.

MaTH716 01-20-2009 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gales0678
say they lost to the pats , after stinking it up against the Eagles my bet would have been Coughlin gone , now giants and their fans are stuck with him for 3 more yrs

he was horrible against philly now twice in the playoffs and horrible against carolina in the playoffs

Eli Manning has yet to win a playoff game at home - he is 0-2 , both years they had better teams than the teams they lost too

Manning has looked horrible in the meadowlands in Jan , not a lot of qb's do well there in the swirling winds and now he is going to get 100mm plus

I'm not saying that you are that far off base, but winning cures everything. You can come up with whatever scenario you want, but you can never take away the 2007-08 championship.

Eli hasn't been good at home, all you can do is hope he gets better. The reciever situation will be addressed and more importantly the line stays intact. I am expecting big things again from them next year.

Smooth Operator 01-20-2009 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
5 NFC championships and 1 SB loss is no ring in sight??? I'd guess that 95% of the league wishes they were this 'successful'. We'll get to the next level, and when we do, your not allowed to celebrate. :rolleyes:

Ah, so close and yet so far, declansharbor



By the way, how many bad draft selections do ya think Fat Andy will make this year? They have a couple first-rounders if I'm not mistaken.


Surely there's another Freddie Mitchell ... or Jerome McDougle ... or Todd Pinkston ... or Barry Gardner out there piquing his interest.............

Antitrust32 01-20-2009 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
OMG, he's getting delusional. Quick someone has to get over to his house and either put on the Phillies championship DVD or the Fashion channel ASAP!


best DVD evah!

declansharbor 01-20-2009 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator
Ah, so close and yet so far, declansharbor



By the way, how many bad draft selections do ya think Fat Andy will make this year? They have a couple first-rounders if I'm not mistaken.


Surely there's another Freddie Mitchell ... or Jerome McDougle ... or Todd Pinkston ... or Barry Gardner out there piquing his interest.............

Show me a coach with a draft success rate of 100% and I'll show your inner bunghole my shoelaces.

Quick to get on him about those draftees, huh? Lets look at the diamonds in the rough. Trent Cole (5th round I believe), BRIAN WESTBROOK (3RD ROUND), Stewart Bradley (3rd round), Gocong (when noone seen him going that high and transitioning to LB), what might be the best DT tandem in the league in Broderick Bunkley and Mike Patterson. Victor Abiamiri (who will be a STUD). Picked up Sheldon and Lito in teh same draft as 36. Brent Clek (5th round, and will be a solid safety valve for years to come). He didnt draft him, but had teh brain to bring in future PRO BOWLER Quinten Mikell after the draft. Lest we forget, choosing Don over Ricky "Greenleaf" Williams who every idiot with a voicebox was clamoring for...

It's quite clear the hard-on you have for Big Red. I used to live with someone just like you, my dad. The two of you are as clueless as they come. Who's your brainiac pick to bring in and make us a contender year in and year out??? My dad's was Gruden. Yes, the same Gruden that is unemployed. I'm eager to see who your replacement is.

gales0678 01-20-2009 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
I disagree. He would have still got the extention after the Super Bowl. Granted it wouldn't have been pretty around here. And he would have been on the hot seat going into next season. But to fire him in a season where they started 11-1, with losing their 2 best pass rushers before the season and then the whole Plax situation is a bit unfair. The Mara's are usually a pretty classy/loyal group and wouldn't have dumped Coughlin just to bring in Spags (if that's what you were thinking) or anyone else.

Wellington Mara was - not sure of the new breed , and don't forget the younger Tischs have a say now as well they won't be patient , if tom doesn't win a playoff game next year , they will buy him out IMO

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-20-2009 04:03 PM

why isnt the defensive q for the eagles not getting any play in the coaching openings..

declansharbor 01-20-2009 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
why isnt the defensive q for the eagles not getting any play in the coaching openings..

Too old.

I don't think he wants (or can handle) the interaction with the WHOLE team. He's content with the situation he's in. I thnk he has spurned offers before in teh past.

Smooth Operator 01-22-2009 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by declansharbor
Show me a coach with a draft success rate of 100% and I'll show your inner bunghole my shoelaces.

Quick to get on him about those draftees, huh? Lets look at the diamonds in the rough. Trent Cole (5th round I believe), BRIAN WESTBROOK (3RD ROUND), Stewart Bradley (3rd round), Gocong (when noone seen him going that high and transitioning to LB), what might be the best DT tandem in the league in Broderick Bunkley and Mike Patterson. Victor Abiamiri (who will be a STUD). Picked up Sheldon and Lito in teh same draft as 36. Brent Clek (5th round, and will be a solid safety valve for years to come). He didnt draft him, but had teh brain to bring in future PRO BOWLER Quinten Mikell after the draft. Lest we forget, choosing Don over Ricky "Greenleaf" Williams who every idiot with a voicebox was clamoring for...

It's quite clear the hard-on you have for Big Red. I used to live with someone just like you, my dad. The two of you are as clueless as they come. Who's your brainiac pick to bring in and make us a contender year in and year out??? My dad's was Gruden. Yes, the same Gruden that is unemployed. I'm eager to see who your replacement is.

My "inner bunghole" ... lol


Go ahead and list all of Andy's moves since he's had complete control over personnel, declansharbor. It'll still adds up to a big fat ZERO ... as in Super Bowl rings.

Apparently you are content with the team being a "contender year in and year out". That is a LOSER mentality.

Andy has CLEARLY shown that he cannot assemble a CHAMPIONSHIP-caliber football team. At the very least, he should be stripped of some of his power over personnel decisions.



And Chucky may not be the greatest head football coach in the world, but he does own a very valuable piece of jewelry. Can't say the same about Andy despite his having total control of everything in Philly for a looooooooooong time now...

declansharbor 01-22-2009 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator
My "inner bunghole" ... lol


Go ahead and list all of Andy's moves since he's had complete control over personnel, declansharbor. It'll still adds up to a big fat ZERO ... as in Super Bowl rings.

Apparently you are content with the team being a "contender year in and year out". That is a LOSER mentality.

Andy has CLEARLY shown that he cannot assemble a CHAMPIONSHIP-caliber football team. At the very least, he should be stripped of some of his power over personnel decisions.



And Chucky may not be the greatest head football coach in the world, but he does own a very valuable piece of jewelry. Can't say the same about Andy despite his having total control of everything in Philly for a looooooooooong time now...

Chucky should have to melt down that ring and give half of it to Dungy. If Chucky had inherited the team that Andy did, he would have been fired after 3 years, ringless as well. If there is such a thing, these are opinionated FACTS.

Antitrust32 01-22-2009 11:56 AM

Andy actually does have a ring.. just not with Philly. He better get one there :mad:

Bigsmc 01-22-2009 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
Chucky should have to melt down that ring and give half of it to Dungy. If Chucky had inherited the team that Andy did, he would have been fired after 3 years, ringless as well. If there is such a thing, these are opinionated FACTS.

90% to Dungy/McKay
10% to Chucky/Allen

Crown@club 01-22-2009 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
Chucky should have to melt down that ring and give half of it to Dungy. If Chucky had inherited the team that Andy did, he would have been fired after 3 years, ringless as well. If there is such a thing, these are opinionated FACTS.

Dungy couldn't get that team past the first round.

Bigsmc 01-22-2009 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Crown@club
Dungy couldn't get that team past the first round.

Which team? He had the Bucs in the NFC Championship and came within a whisker of derailing the Greatest Show on Turf in their heyday.

Crown@club 01-22-2009 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Which team? He had the Bucs in the NFC Championship and came within a whisker of derailing the Greatest Show on Turf in their heyday.

Dungy had back-to-back 1st round losses in 2000 and 2001. He was fired because the offense showed decline.

Bigsmc 01-22-2009 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Crown@club
Dungy had back-to-back 1st round losses in 2000 and 2001. He was fired because the offense showed decline.

There was never any offensive incline. So how could it have been in decline?

GBBob 01-30-2009 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
Too old.

I don't think he wants (or can handle) the interaction with the WHOLE team. He's content with the situation he's in. I thnk he has spurned offers before in teh past.

Sadly, this may play a part in his role not to pursue a Head Coaching job as well..Good Luck..

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