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10 pnt move up 09-04-2013 11:03 AM

Speaking of Timeform pace projections, what do you think of Tamarando in the Del Mar Futurity, he has never really caught a fast pace and I think a bunch of sprinters stretching out today will give that to him, his 82 is already competitive and I think he may improve a bit at 7F, 8/1 ML.

odbaxter 09-04-2013 11:25 AM

Can someone post a link to Doug's blog please?

Thx.

Calzone Lord 09-04-2013 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by odbaxter (Post 944290)
Can someone post a link to Doug's blog please?

Thx.

http://timeformusblog.com/

I have been doing a play of the day write-up for Saratoga and a major weekend stakes race or two.

pweizer 09-04-2013 11:53 AM

You should start doing Presque Isle too given your posts above. Great job.

Paul

Calzone Lord 09-04-2013 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 944287)
Speaking of Timeform pace projections, what do you think of Tamarando in the Del Mar Futurity, he has never really caught a fast pace and I think a bunch of sprinters stretching out today will give that to him, his 82 is already competitive and I think he may improve a bit at 7F, 8/1 ML.

He and Albert's Hope definitely should get a setup in that race.

As should Pebble Beach Baby in Race #2.

Calzone Lord 09-04-2013 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pweizer (Post 944297)
You should start doing Presque Isle too given your posts above. Great job.

Paul

Thanks Paul. They make those decisions for me.

pweizer 09-04-2013 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 944314)
Thanks Paul. They make those decisions for me.

You can always post here if you are allowed...

Paul

10 pnt move up 09-04-2013 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 944313)
He and Albert's Hope definitely should get a setup in that race.

As should Pebble Beach Baby in Race #2.

( :

I bet her as well

10 pnt move up 09-04-2013 04:41 PM

No chance 3rd.

I know they said its really hot, wonder if they over watered the track, it was chalky but two races and not much passing of horses as of yet.

asudevil 09-04-2013 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 944287)
Speaking of Timeform pace projections, what do you think of Tamarando in the Del Mar Futurity, he has never really caught a fast pace and I think a bunch of sprinters stretching out today will give that to him, his 82 is already competitive and I think he may improve a bit at 7F, 8/1 ML.

Hope you crushed that.

helicopter11 09-04-2013 08:15 PM

Good call on Keyboard Courage....12-1.

10 pnt move up 09-04-2013 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by asudevil (Post 944356)
Hope you crushed that.

Yea that was a good result for me, nice way to end the meet.

odbaxter 09-04-2013 08:45 PM

HELL YES!!!

You rock Doug!!!!!

10 pnt move up 09-04-2013 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by odbaxter (Post 944370)
HELL YES!!!

You rock Doug!!!!!

Doug is awesome but credit should go to Justin Finch who wrote the blog and is the Del Mar blogger for Timeform.

odbaxter 09-04-2013 11:18 PM

Thanks for the heads up!

Way to go Justin!

Calzone Lord 09-05-2013 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 944287)
Speaking of Timeform pace projections, what do you think of Tamarando in the Del Mar Futurity, he has never really caught a fast pace and I think a bunch of sprinters stretching out today will give that to him, his 82 is already competitive and I think he may improve a bit at 7F, 8/1 ML.

Excellent call with Tamarando cashing in on the setup!

Sightseek 09-05-2013 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 944287)
Speaking of Timeform pace projections, what do you think of Tamarando in the Del Mar Futurity, he has never really caught a fast pace and I think a bunch of sprinters stretching out today will give that to him, his 82 is already competitive and I think he may improve a bit at 7F, 8/1 ML.

Nice!

10 pnt move up 09-05-2013 09:12 AM

The blue/red pace lines is a really nice feature with Timeform, you quickly at a glance can measure the setup the horse was working with last race(s).

Many times you see a speed horse with a blue running line and then a loss at 3/5 next out which was predictable, now Jerry Brown would say the horse bounced, but we know thats not reality.

Calzone Lord 09-05-2013 11:00 AM

The blue-fractions and red-fractions are definitely a nice feature.

Any pace that is a +15 or higher, the fractions are shown in red.

Any pace that is a -15 or lower, the fractions are displayed in blue.

My personal preference would have been to use +20 or faster for red, and -12 or slower for blue ... but they're currently very close to that right now.

10 pnt move up 09-05-2013 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 944417)
The blue-fractions and red-fractions are definitely a nice feature.

Any pace that is a +15 or higher, the fractions are shown in red.

Any pace that is a -15 or lower, the fractions are displayed in blue.

My personal preference would have been to use +20 or faster for red, and -12 or slower for blue ... but they're currently very close to that right now.

I have actually been much more profitable on the closers in -12 running line than the speed horses. The odds are way better as well.

What I am finding is there are many horses who run well with +20 efforts but do not back them up, more times than not at the cheap tracks.

This an advanced pacefigures type item but I am finding also some correlation between turn time and next out efforts using the PF's.


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