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MaTH716 06-03-2013 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by -BT- (Post 930558)
how do they go to sleep?
guy has been the starter all season for the B's, who have been a playoff caliber team all year. He's the one who made Tim Thomas expendable.
Vokoun just got the nod over the flower during the playoffs, and has never really been a low scoring goalie.
The pens might have a 100M offense and defense, but keep in mind they're playing with a back up between the pipes

-bt-

I just feel like Rask flies under the radar and doesn't get his due.

Fluery was horrendous last year too, hence them getting Vokoun in the off-season. One he regained his playoff form of last season and couldn't stop a beach ball, Disco Dan made the right move going to Vokoun.

Danzig 06-03-2013 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by -BT- (Post 930554)
really think people need to keep in mind the tomas vokoun factor.
guy has never been this far in the playoffs, and he's a plug for the le flour right now, i think the B's expose him big time this series

-bt-

i agree. goalie vs goalie, i have to give the nod to rask over the old man. he got brought to washington last year, and just didn't do the trick. the goalie is definitely the weak point for the pens.



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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 930566)
I just feel like Rask flies under the radar and doesn't get his due.

Fluery was horrendous last year too, hence them getting Vokoun in the off-season. One he regained his playoff form of last season and couldn't stop a beach ball, Disco Dan made the right move going to Vokoun.

rask has big skates to fill, and i think has done a great job doing so. he doesn't get the same respect as howard, crawford, quick...but does a great job.
and fleury is just so damned inpredictable. never thought he deserved a lot of the praise he got-but that's the penguins in a nutshell when it comes to coverage.

hoovesupsideyourhead 06-03-2013 11:45 AM

they should start mark andre..its the spark they need..

MaTH716 06-03-2013 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 930577)
they should start mark andre..its the spark they need..

Disagree, he's been terrible. Maybe if they lose game 2. But I leave Vokoun in for now. Can't win if you don't score.

-BT- 06-03-2013 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 930564)
I agree with this. Vokoun gave up a lot of juicy rebounds in the first two series that didn"t end up in the back of the net. Vokoun is especially bad when the puck gets around his feet. There will be plenty of goals scored in this series.


puck just hops off his pads, got to see that first hand in DC, where he was the starter the majority of the year only ride the pine come playoffs.
AND
he's a wrong handed goalie, hate'm, they weird me out. When i'm shooting high glove as a right handed shot i want to be shooting over your glove not your blocker, they're freak shows those wrong handers.

keith ballard reacts to vokoun's rebound control
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-3sPQ0jH_g


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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 930579)
Disagree, he's been terrible. Maybe if they lose game 2. But I leave Vokoun in for now. Can't win if you don't score.

regardless of how many goals they score, if the pens lose tonight i think there's a very good chance they kick the tires again on the flower... at home

-bt-

MaTH716 06-03-2013 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by -BT- (Post 930585)
puck just hops off his pads, got to see that first hand in DC, where he was the starter the majority of the year only ride the pine come playoffs.
AND
he's a wrong handed goalie, hate'm, they weird me out. When i'm shooting high glove as a right handed shot i want to be shooting over your glove not your blocker, they're freak shows those wrong handers.

keith ballard reacts to vokoun's rebound control
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-3sPQ0jH_g




regardless of how many goals they score, if the pens lose tonight i think there's a very good chance they kick the tires again on the flower... at home
-bt-

????

-BT- 06-03-2013 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 930586)
????

sorry i forgot they had home ice...


-bt-

Danzig 06-03-2013 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 930577)
they should start mark andre..its the spark they need..

not sure that would spark them. others play better when they know the goalie has their back. vokoun is their best chance to win....which should be a real concern for them!

and crosby elbowing rask, and then jawing at chara-not the brightest candle on the cake...

MaTH716 06-03-2013 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 930592)
not sure that would spark them. others play better when they know the goalie has their back. vokoun is their best chance to win....which should be a real concern for them!

and crosby elbowing rask, and then jawing at chara-not the brightest candle on the cake...

Disagree 100% and I despise Crosby. He's trying to rile up Rask and doing his job as leader by not backing down against one of the biggest and badest mofo's in the league. Everything you want and need as Captain.

rpncaine 06-03-2013 02:35 PM

Thought I saw a tweet earlier where the Pens called up a goalie. That's gotta give the one's they have a lot of confidence!

Danzig 06-03-2013 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 930593)
Disagree 100% and I despise Crosby. He's trying to rile up Rask and doing his job as leader by not backing down against one of the biggest and badest mofo's in the league. Everything you want and need as Captain.

oh, i know his intent. but i don't see him being the one to actually tangle with chara and spark his teammates. i'm sure the pens have enforcers for that.

Danzig 06-03-2013 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rpncaine (Post 930595)
Thought I saw a tweet earlier where the Pens called up a goalie. That's gotta give the one's they have a lot of confidence!

haven't seen that they called one up, but vokoun is their starter for game 2. no line changes apparently either....

MaTH716 06-03-2013 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rpncaine (Post 930595)
Thought I saw a tweet earlier where the Pens called up a goalie. That's gotta give the one's they have a lot of confidence!

That could just be some kind of roster technicality so he could practice with the team. I'm pretty sure that it's a non-event.

rpncaine 06-03-2013 02:41 PM

Recalled G Jeff Zatkoff from @WBSPenguins. He was team MVP during reg season after going 26-20

-BT- 06-03-2013 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 930593)
Disagree 100% and I despise Crosby. He's trying to rile up Rask and doing his job as leader by not backing down against one of the biggest and badest mofo's in the league. Everything you want and need as Captain.

people with glass jaws shouldn't throw stones......at the biggest man in the NHL

* was the slash on seguin at the end of the game, and the 1+ plus of lip service he gave the ref setting the tone for game 2? The whole team is filled with babies, from mario on down, never seen a team cry wolf so many times in my life. And if Crosby, mr. all world needs to get under Raask's skin in game 1 of this series that should shed some light on how he values his teams chances

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Originally Posted by rpncaine (Post 930600)
Recalled G Jeff Zatkoff from @WBSPenguins. He was team MVP during reg season after going 26-20

i believe that annoying ass clown doc emerik mentioned on sat. that WSB just got knocked out of the AHL playoffs so it's nothing more than a free call up and practice with the team

-bt-

golfer 06-03-2013 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by -BT- (Post 930604)
people with glass jaws shouldn't throw stones......at the biggest man in the NHL

* was the slash on seguin at the end of the game, and the 1+ plus of lip service he gave the ref setting the tone for game 2? The whole team is filled with babies, from mario on down, never seen a team cry wolf so many times in my life. And if Crosby, mr. all world needs to get under Raask's skin in game 1 of this series that should shed some light on how he values his teams chances



i believe that annoying ass clown doc emerik mentioned on sat. that WSB just got knocked out of the AHL playoffs so it's nothing more than a free call up and practice with the team

-bt-

The top play by player in ALL SPORTS is an Ass Clown? Please expand further?

3kings 06-03-2013 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 930593)
Disagree 100% and I despise Crosby. He's trying to rile up Rask and doing his job as leader by not backing down against one of the biggest and badest mofo's in the league. Everything you want and need as Captain.

Stop it. He's a whiner and the only time he came close to Chara is after the ref/linesman was between them. If the Bruins are smart they will keep going after Crosby and Malkin. The more they whine the more undisiplined they become and the worse they play. An inferior Flyer team with a sieve for a goalie beat them last year using those tactics.

Danzig 06-03-2013 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by golfer (Post 930605)
The top play by player in ALL SPORTS is an Ass Clown? Please expand further?

doc emrick is the top play by play announcer? yikes.

i don't like him at all, and wish he and milbury would both go the way of the dodo.

-BT- 06-03-2013 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by golfer (Post 930605)
The top play by player in ALL SPORTS is an Ass Clown? Please expand further?

seth, i know you're down b/c the TBD meet just ended, but ANY announcer who’s voice can be replicated by simply pinching your nose and talking, i refuse to endorse as the best.

doc in the 80's early 90's sure, very knowledgeable. Today, you just keep hearing him talk about the old days, peoples fathers and tiger williams....... and when the fans are lucky enough to get a break from his nails on a chalkboard voice, it's filled with what i expect to be ANYTHING better, i'm given Pierre McGuire's "everything that is JR hockey" opinion, which makes me want to jump out of my 2nd story window, climb up to my nearest CTA red line and ask the next train that passith by my window to strike me down.

i would rather watch games on FOX with no sound and the laser beam puck tracker in standard def....then listen to doc emrick

http://gahdengremlins.com/post/11100...-drinking-game


-bt-

golfer 06-03-2013 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 930609)
doc emrick is the top play by play announcer? yikes.

i don't like him at all, and wish he and milbury would both go the way of the dodo.

Well, I guess it's a Caps fan thing then, because I have watched/listened to him work for well over 20 years (skipping his Flyer days), and no one else comes close to his preparation, knowledge, and true love and respect for the game and it's players. Every network save ESPN has called on him to be their #1 Play by Play guy, so it's not just me. He and John Davidson were the best duo EVER, any sport, IMO.

Milbury is as big a clown as a broadcaster as he was a GM, polar opposite of Emerick.


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