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dellinger63 10-23-2012 01:36 PM

And let's not forget Obama is the first President to declare his wife deserves to be paid for being the first lady. Despite self-classifying himself as rich.

That he donated just over $1,000 to charity on a $250K taxpayer paid, salary. Did that former career as a community organizer jade him to private charities?

dagolfer33 10-23-2012 01:37 PM

The fundamental problem/scenario in play here with imports: American widget manufacturing company with $35/hr union employees makes widget, final product raw cost $40. Chinese/Guatemala/Indonesia widget manufacturing company with $2/hr slave labor employees make widget, final raw cost $8. American consumers who are currently broked!cks have no other choice but to buy cheaper product. Not hard to figure out.

jms62 10-23-2012 01:39 PM

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The fundamental problem/scenario in play here with imports: American widget manufacturing company with $35/hr union employees makes widget, final product raw cost $40. Chinese/Guatemala/Indonesia widget manufacturing company with $2/hr slave labor employees make widget, final raw cost $8. American consumers who are currently broked!cks have no other choice but to buy cheaper product. Not hard to figure out.

So what is the solution?

Riot 10-23-2012 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 897708)
And let's not forget Obama is the first President to declare his wife deserves to be paid for being the first lady.

No, he never said that seriously. He made a joke about First Ladies not being paid. You know, like "59 states"?
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That he donated just over $1,000 to charity on a $250K taxpayer paid, salary.
Or $41,000. Whatever, huh?

Good lord - save this country from the wing nuts.

Rudeboyelvis 10-23-2012 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 897710)
So what is the solution?

Not allow foreign govt's of these competitors to devalue their currency in order for it to appear that their manufacturing is more advantagous?

If there is one thing Romney plans to do that I agree with is that he says he will level the playing field with respect to foreign trade day 1. Could blow up in his face, but the current track just slides us further and further down the slope, so worth a chance - nothing to lose at this point.

jms62 10-23-2012 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 897717)
Not allow foreign govt's of these competitors to devalue their currency in order for it to appear that their manufacturing is more advantagous?

If there is one thing Romney plans to do that I agree with is that he says he will level the playing field with respect to foreign trade day 1. Could blow up in his face, but the current track just slides us further and further down the slope, so worth a chance - nothing to lose at this point.

I agree with you but it is unenforceable and will lead to currency wars and it won't end well.

http://www.amazon.com/Currency-Wars-.../dp/1591844495

dellinger63 10-23-2012 02:35 PM

Posted this a bit ago but actions speak louder than words and looky how Harry Reid gets tough on China. Selling out American energy jobs to the Chinese with no middle man! Hypocrites, all of them.

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Imagine a man who is willing to not only forego creating American Jobs but also eliminating some so the Chinese can come to NV and build a solar power plant with the cost of doing such to be passed on to Nevadans in the form of higher power bills.

Having a son who is representing said Chinese owned firm gives some indication of motive.

Wake Up America! This man could give a rats azz about the people in his home State. What do you think he think's of people of other States?
http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/costs-co...164858086.html

Coach Pants 10-23-2012 04:00 PM

Obama is a child. A delusional child who had an invisible father that he romanticized to the point of being chided and laughed at. His father had multiple children with multiple women. His mother was a carpet-bagging headcase who basically would be in scat porn if she were in her prime today.

Disagree? Look at those photos of her...during those times. She was on the cutting edge of sorriness and depravity.

I'm tired of the guy. He's a white guy who hates white people. A product of failed socialist/liberal policies.

And rumor is he received scholarships for being a foreign student. That's bad comb-over guys bombshell tomorrow.

OldDog 10-23-2012 04:30 PM

Speaking of a product of failed policies...

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...um=twitterfeed

cal828 10-23-2012 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 897710)
So what is the solution?

This may be the solution: http://news.yahoo.com/us-may-soon-be...--finance.html

According to the talking heads, many of the companies that relocated to China and other places will eventually come back because of cheap energy to power factories, the American workers that are 3 times as productive as any other workers, better infrastructure and being closer to what is still the world's biggest market.

So maybe an economic recovery doesn't really have much to do with who becomes the next President?


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