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First I want to repsond to Oracle's post. I agree with Oracle 100%. I agree with everything he said. He actually took the words right out my mouth.
In response to Jessica's post, I think the most important part of the whole article were these quotes, "Such efforts to segregate or diminish dissent are hardly new to American politics. The ACLU has sued several Presidents over attempts to silence opposition, as in 1997, when President Clinton tried to prevent protesters from lining his inaugural parade route." This has been going on for years. This is nothing new. I'm not necessarily in favor of it. It just depends on the circumstances of the event. I volunteered for a candidate running for Mayor of Los Angeles several years ago. His opponent was giving a speech in a small room at a local health clinic. I went there and was considering protesting. The people putting on the event figured out that I was not a supporter of this candidate. If I would have started yelling or protesting during his speech, it would have been very disruptive. They made me promise that I would behave myself. If I didn't promise that I would behave myself, I would have been asked to leave. I had no problem with this. The truth of the matter is it would have been completely inappropriate for me to disrupt his speech. They didn't even need to make me promise to behave. When I saw the setting, I could see how disruptive and inappropriate it would have been for me to yell or anything like that. I would never have the nerve to do something like that. With regard to your having no problem with being searched at the airport, then that means that you agree that we don't need to follow the Constitution to a "T". The airport is a public place. Technically they should not search you if they don't have probable cause. We all know that it is very important for them to search everyone at the airport in the times we live in, regardles of the wording of the Constitution. I'm glad you agree with me about that. With regard to the two women who were arrested, how can you say that they didn't do anything wrong? You weren't there. You don't know what happened. I don't either. The article doesn't give any details. Authorities say the women refused to obey reasonable security restrictions. The women disagree. I don't know all the facts but from the small amount of information that I have, I would tend to believe the authorities. If the authorities were arrresting everyone with dissenting opinions, how come those two women were the only ones arrested? I'm sure they were mouthing off or something. I don't know what the exact laws are but I do know that it's not very smart to mouth off to cops. If you start swearing at a cop or calling him names, there is probably a good chance that you will be arrested. I'm not even talking about political rallies. I'm talking about any situation when you deal with police. If they give you some type of order and you disobey it or you mouth off to them, there is a good chance you will arrested. There is also a good chance that the charges will be dropped. |
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As far as I can determine ... neither you ... nor any of the moonbat leftists ... have provided the name(s) of any American(s) whose rights have been unjustly "infringed" by the Bush administration. You cite Jose Padilla ... but it's a virtual certainty that he was planning to become a mass murderer. Can you cite any other American ... out of 300,000,000 ... who wasn't planning to become a mass murderer ... and whose rights have been "infringed"? Your reliance on leftist propaganda outlets like the New York Times and USA Today ... indicates that you are politically claustrophobic. You need to escape that leftist closet ... and expand your horizons. If you have a voracious appetite for political commentary ... try visiting townhall.com ... a site which compiles columns from highly reputable ... and generally scholarly ... right-wing political observers. Try being a glutton there. If you can't read everything ... try focusing on Dr. Thomas Sowell ... not only his political columns ... but go to the library and read some of his many scholarly books. Open your eyes and your mind ... there are some real ideas out there which may appeal to you much more than the drivel which emanates from ultraleftist circles. |
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It's a comfort and pleasure to know that you're out there. The young ladies on this site ... who have allowed themselves to be unduly influenced by leftist loonies ... will (hopefully) some day look back on this period of their lives and say, "Wow! I was really crazy back then." And reasoned posts like yours will surely help speed that day. |
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It's not unconstitutional for someone to search you before you enter their property. No one has a "right" to enter my house with anything ... weapons, drugs, body odor, fried foods ... that I don't approve of. |
Who thinks the current administration has done an excellent job of stopping terrorism?
I don't. I believe they've encouraged muslims to follow the extremist line of thinking. |
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Oracle80 ... more than just an encyclopedic thoroughbred analyst ... but also a man of brilliant insight and unerring common sense. |
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Bush has dropped the ball, I agree! Clinton and all other Presidents failed before him as well! I don't like the argument that to do anything only increases the number of folks that don't like us and are willing to strap bombs to their chests...I think you have to realize that it takes more than simple hatred to make a "good terrorist" (talk about an oxymoron)...you first must have a feeling of hopelessness and helplessness brought about by generations of poverty and ruthless rule of the powers that be, then you need the religious radicalism that gives those folks hope, if not in this world then the next, and finally...you project all the justifiable anger toward the intended target (that would be us or the Israelis). I realize that the leaders are usually highly educated and often come from filthy rich families...but they don't walk into schools and shopping centers with bombs on their chest! |
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All of the arrests cited were made by Secret Service agents ... or by law enforcement authorities working in conjunction with them. Protecting the U.S President ... and other important office holders ... is a very serious responsibility ... always has been ... and is especially so in these days of terrorism ... regardless of who the president and office holders are. The Secret Service isn't sacrosanct ... anyone can file a complaint against them ... and some actually do ... but I know of no instance ... and you haven't cited any ... of their agents being penalized or upbraided by any court for infringing on citizens' rights. When you have a headline which says, "Secret Service Agent Arrested/Fired/Fined For Civil Rights Violation" ... please post it here. |
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Richard Clarke produced a strategy paper, presented to Clinton, Sandy Berger and other national security principals on December 20th, 2000, which laid out the following: Break up al-Qaeda cells and arrest their personnel; systematically attack financial support for terrorist activities; freeze its assets; stop its funding through fake charities; give aid to governments having trouble with al-Qaeda ; scale up covert action in Afghanistan to eliminate the training camps and kill bin Laden himself; build support for the Northern Alliance and put Special Forces on the ground in Afghanistan. This plan was not implemented, as a senior Cinton aide told Time Magazine, because if it were, Clinton would basically be handing the Bush administration a war when they took office one month later. Instead, they gave the plan to the Bush administration, with Sandy Berger arranging no less than ten full briefings to Condi Rice. The plan was not picked up until post September 11th, 2001, at which point pretty much all of it became national strategy, along with the foundation of the Department of Homeland Security, as per legislation authored by Democratic Senators Lieberman and Cleland some nine months earlier. Of course, Cleland didn't vote for the new Homeland Security department when it was tabled because it came with the provision that the new department's employees were to be stripped of civil service protection. This meant that when he ran against Saxby Chambliss in 2002, Chambliss ran ads claiming Cleland didn't care about national security and promptly beat him. .................................................. .................................................. .. **** like that is why I have little faith in our government. They talk a big game, but halfass everything. |
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Well ... what we've had for the past five years ... are terrorists who couldn't strike. They want to ... they really want to murder all of us ... but they haven't ... because they've been stopped. Has the Bush administration done an excellent job of stopping terrorism? No ... they've done a PERFECT job ... zero terrorist attacks on Americans ... for five years ... and counting. Is it possible to do better than that? |
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Keep up the good work! America **** yeah!! |
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... and what better way is there to provide hope for a better life to anyone ... anywhere ... than to promote democracy and capitalism? Do you know something better than that? |
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The police will never be able to stop crazed drug addicts from murdering their girlfriends ... it's just a tragic flaw of human nature. |
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I actually think it's ridiculous that Muslims are angry that we went into Iraq. They should be happy. The people in Iraq were happy. They wanted us to come. Saddam Hussein was terrorizing the people in Iraq. I can understand if Americans are mad that we into Iraq. Americans could argue that it was unnecessary and the cost was too great. But it's absurd for Muslims to be angry. We were helping the people there. We weren't hurting them. The situation there may not be great right now, but that's not our fault. If the Shiites and Sunnis want to kill each other, there's not much we can do about it. You would think that they would want to live in peace but they would rather kill each other. |
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