Perhaps next year?:rolleyes:

Interesting use of the word "fast" in the title. . . I wonder if that was Andy's doing or an editor's.

Congratulations on illustrating the point I was making perfectly with one more example of why no attempt to have a discussion of racing history or offer perspective on it is worthwhile when this particular topic is broached. It's a complete waste of energy on a group that has no interest in even attempting to understand the nuances of any element of the game, breed, races, racing surfaces, competition levels, or any other historic element that goes into comparisons of this nature.

I'm going to make up a bunch of bumper stickers reading "WWZD" and sell them at her last two starts.

How many will I need to make to assure I don't sell out?

That is actually an unbelievable idea, you could get $5 for those, and make a killing. I would say you would need 2500.

Like I said before, just do some simple math:

17 (wins) + 1 (BCD win) + 1 (BCC win) + 1 (BCC dirt win) + 0 (losses) = LIVING LEGEND

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Please don't waste any more of your energy. I'm not as impressed w/ your perspective as you seem to be.

Don't worry, I won't. It's obvious you're completely incapable of a discussion on any portion of the topic.

There you go again with the typos.

FTFY

Steve hates pointless canards, by the way...

well said....

WTF? Keeneland, Del Mar, Hollywood, Arlington and Dubai have synthetic tracks. It DOES make a difference in knowing the differences between them. Anyone who doesn't think so should get their head examined...or not...like that other guy said, I'll just take your money.

This is getting beyond the point of ridiculous with the Zenyattatards. It really is. The big issue is that while her zealots continue to call her the best ever without taking into account the circumstances under which she picked up her wins with. Except for two very weak editions of the Apple Blossom where obviously, she wasn't forced to run an exceptional race, she has run every race of her career on synthetic tracks, types of synthetics not withstanding because the synthetic track make-up has always seemd to cater towards the running style of Zenyatta which is to make that sweeping wide last move into the stretch, always more often successful on the synthetic tracks or turf than dirt.

Let's be honest here, she has never had to run on a track which really could prove her greatness or run against a field which was brought together that would prove how great she is. She has never had to deal with slow fractions on dirt that would put her up against it coming from off the pace. As an add on to this, she's never had to deal with a negative track bias as her running style picks up a positive bias out in So Cal on those synthetic tracks. Just look at Sinister Minister the one year in Keeneland in the Blue Grass. Was he a legitimate top class, G1 horse? Not a chance in hell and at any other track he's probably up the track in the Blue Grass. But on that one day he used his speed to ride the ridiculous bias to a dominating G1 victory because no one was going to catch that horse on that track on that day. We've never had a day where she's run where she's been up against a speed bias on a dirt track where front runners aren't coming back to the field, or where she's had to run down a top class horse on the dirt. Simply put she's never faced any adversity. It's equivalent to being a Major League caliber ballplayer who dominates AAA his whole career, gets called up to the Majors a few times, always hits well in his cups of coffee and yet continues to get sent down each year for higher regarded prospects.

Ya she blows :zz:

Yeah that's exactly what I said...reading comprehension might help.

Oh I can comprehend it...I just can't believe an intelligent person drafted it

Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with one.

Well I always admire your work :)

When will Zenyatta's legions of fans realize and accept that her supposed "detractors" also think she is a really good horse. Nobody is saying she "blows." I think EVERYBODY is impressed with her consistency and her ability to retain form year after year. She also deserves (and gets) credit for winning races on three different types of synthetic surfaces and dirt. A lot of good horses can't do that, and she can.

Okay fine. She's a really good horse. Nobody really disputes that.

It is only when people start saying she is one of the best ever that her supposed "detractors" rightfully begin to raise points against her.
There is a big range between "blows" and "one of the best ever." In my opinion, she fits somewhere in that range.

Whoever said I was intelligent!?

I almost never post anything longer than too sentences!