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slotdirt 09-17-2010 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 696518)
So what are you guys trying to say … that LH would've wired the Travers on a clear day?


Lol … maybe in one of Rock's dreams

At some point, do you even really know what you're arguing or does it all just become words?

Indian Charlie 09-17-2010 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 696526)
At some point, do you even really know what you're arguing or does it all just become words?

I have always liked how he laughs at his own words with his excessive use of 'LOL'.

Smooth Operator 09-17-2010 09:21 AM

Good answers … figured you guys weren't quite dumb enough to defend LH's ability to take a 10f at Saratoga…

slotdirt 09-17-2010 09:31 AM

Dude, was that even your original point? Wasn't your point that Lion Heart was some sort of cheap speed even though the horse won one of the top five or so biggest ROUTING races for three years olds in the country?

Dahoss 09-17-2010 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 696518)
So what are you guys trying to say … that LH would've wired the Travers on a clear day?


Lol … maybe in one of Rock's dreams

Not saying that at all. Just correcting your error about the weather during the race.

Smooth Operator 09-17-2010 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 696555)
Dude, was that even your original point? Wasn't your point that Lion Heart was some sort of cheap speed even though the horse won one of the top five or so biggest ROUTING races for three years olds in the country?

Keep reviewing the material, slot

You'll figure it out … eventually…

Smooth Operator 09-17-2010 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 696587)
Not saying that at all. Just correcting your error about the weather during the race.

Think you mean the error in the BH.com article…

Dahoss 09-17-2010 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 696600)
Think you mean the error in the BH.com article…

Since you never provided the article, I figure you read it wrong.

You must be getting excited. Your annual bet is coming up. Then you'll disappear for awhile. I think we're all excited about that.

slotdirt 09-17-2010 12:27 PM

Yes, your point was that Lion Heart only finished second in the 2004 Derby because of the track, and you'd hate to see Zenyatta have to run on a similar track. When confronted with evidence that Lion Heart was, indeed, a stayer, you bring up a race run in yet another monsoon as proof that Lion Heart couldn't go a route of ground. Perhaps it wasn't the track that had him second in 2004 and instead it was talent? It doesn't seem to be implausible considering the horse won the freaking Haskell.

Indian Charlie 09-17-2010 12:33 PM

What's really funny is that Zenyatta is the best filly since Ruffian, and according to some people, the best horse since Ruffian.

Though, that's only if every possible condition is stacked in her favor.

Once one little variable is slightly unfavorable, they start flapping their wings and clucking like a coop full of angry hens.

Dahoss 09-17-2010 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 696612)
Yes, your point was that Lion Heart only finished second in the 2004 Derby because of the track, and you'd hate to see Zenyatta have to run on a similar track. When confronted with evidence that Lion Heart was, indeed, a stayer, you bring up a race run in yet another monsoon as proof that Lion Heart couldn't go a route of ground. Perhaps it wasn't the track that had him second in 2004 and instead it was talent? It doesn't seem to be implausible considering the horse won the freaking Haskell.

The funniest part about the whole thing is Lion Heart got hurt in the Travers and was retired the day after the race.

JerseyJ 09-18-2010 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 696617)
The funniest part about the whole thing is Lion Heart got hurt in the Travers and was retired the day after the race.

I was just going to mention that something that probably affected Lion Heart in the race was, oh I don't know, but maybe he didn't run so well because he broke his *&#^@&! leg in the running of the race. I don't know about you Hoss, but breaking a leg in a race doesn't exactly seem conducive to winning a race...

my miss storm cat 09-19-2010 02:20 PM

I thought a few of you might like to read this...

http://www.thepilot.com/news/2010/se...-ride-his-lif/

Now I'll tiptoe and back away from the nice thread very slowly...

clyde 09-19-2010 02:22 PM

You're wrong.

my miss storm cat 09-19-2010 02:23 PM

No, I'm My Miss Storm Cat.

clyde 09-19-2010 02:24 PM

!!




My Miss Door Mat...I mean Storm Cat....





...you're wrong.



Bettah?

Happy now,are ya?

Sightseek 09-19-2010 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 697064)
I thought a few of you might like to read this...

http://www.thepilot.com/news/2010/se...-ride-his-lif/

Now I'll tiptoe and back away from the nice thread very slowly...

Quote:

In 2001, Willard left Mandella to work for Shirreffs, who had won that year’s Kentucky Derby with Giacomo, owned by the Mosses.

:zz: killed it for me right there.

my miss storm cat 09-19-2010 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 697078)
:zz: killed it for me right there.

Oh wow.

I have a habit of lapsing into a temporary coma any time I see the name Giacomo so that's my excuse for missing it. :D

clyde 09-19-2010 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 697079)
Oh wow.

I have a habit of lapsing into a temporary coma any time I see the name Giacomo so that's my excuse for missing it. :D



You're kidding me...right?


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