You're right, Jess Jackson can run is horse anywhere he wants, but what don't you get about the fact that NYRA's rolled out the red carpet for Jackson for three years running? As you note, he doesn't need the money, so why should they be expected to bump the purse for her? As for telling Asmussen to leave her at Monmouth, if Rachel's not going to compete at the meet, what good comes from having her stabled at the Oklahoma?

Anyone who's listened to Jackson over the past three years would immediately know that he has a pretty shaky understanding of the sport or its history and its traditions, so I doubt this has anything to do with supporting Monmouth's "million a day" meet.

[quote=freddymo;664180]You see you just arent rich enough to understand really rich people.
1. Money is how they keep score, period.
2. I'm sure there is some plan mapped out in jacksons head that gets her over some moneywon record and she needs to start earning more than what he is winning in these secondary races.
3. The thought that someone like Jackson is concerned with his hired help getting a few thousand dollars is laughable especially when that hired help has made ALOT of money off of his horses already.

Welcome to 90's were have you been? tear.. You ever try to sell to walmart or Target? You ever try to establish yourself in a market?

Horse racing and integrity your kidding right.. How many fn cheats are exposed a year? The friggin trainer of the super draw(Rachel) has been busted 394 times for drugs. Horses getting taken down by stewards without explaination. Jockeys attack each other during races. Trainers send horses to slaughter and owners that own 150k a session stallions starve there stock and go to Jail. Please you are worried about making a time and date for people to be entertained and smile.. Good lookin out

Those are seperate issues.

The reason that the Triple Crown works is because people desire to win those races. It seems as though that series and the BC to a lesser degree are the only important races left. Virtually every trainer of horses in the TC series would love to see the races spaced a little differently and almost none of them have horses suited to go as far as the races are written. Yet they continue to show up for them. When was the last time a TC race had a 5 horse field? It works because people have no choice but to run under the conditions given. That doesnt mean that every classic race is a classic but you can feel pretty secure knowing that winning one means something.

But this idea that horses dont have to run against top competition to be horse of the year, that the historically signifigant races are passed over for made for one horse events, that handicaps are made a mockery of because of the desire to prop up a popular horses record, that an owner can dictate the date and distance of a race that others are paying to run in as well, is well disturbing. It is one thing if baseball players are taking steroids. it is another if the league is handing them out.

The sport is crumbling and RA running in the Delaware Hdcp or Ruffian isnt going to change that. But the pandering to RA continues down the path that makes important races less important, makes competition between top horses rarer and lines the pockets of those who need it the least. Sounds like a winner.

Maybe they play there cards right they could get 1 race from Rachel.. They need her she dont need them. At this point it is all about the ridiculous BC Classic which is really the issue that needs to be addressed.
Horses are prepped not campaigned.. But its here to stay so make the best of it and ultilze stardom when you have it.. How many stars have truly transcended racing...Blame?

I think you grossly overstate her "drawing" power. At best, she probably brought about 8,000 extra people to the track when she won the Mother Goose and the Woodward in 2009.

HoY this is about marketing..its about people coming to the track something which currently only happens at Delmar and SPA. People dont go to the track, horses arent stars and people have gambling options including other options at the track which keep them away from racing..

Yep that Historic Mother Goose last year was a real humdinger.

Ok no biggie for NYRA.. 8k more for the Mother Goose is 160% more then typical no biggie huh? Your right lets get Hedge Fund fired up again

The point I was trying to make (and not very well I guess) is that the anti Zenyatta crowd would be having a field day with her connections if she was running in an ungraded race.

I have as much respect for both of these great horses as anybody. I love watching them both run.

I did like this quote from the DRF story, "Mike Dempsey, the racing secretary at Monmouth Park, said, "There are no appearance fees for anyone involved..."

Well, thank God they didn't have to give the old coot money just for showing up. Nearly tripling the purse, moving the date, and lengthening it was just enough I guess.

http://www.drf.com/news/article/114353.html

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At that time he was saying Curlin was running in the Grade 1 races with a lot of history behind them and that Big Brown should have to meet him at a race of that magnitude.

Guess things have changed in his mind.

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Freddy is just cracking me up in this thread.

Even when he's hopelessly wrong about things ... he's still an all-time great poster.

He just hi-jacked my call with Steve too. He's like a runaway freight train. That is unless there's another Freddy from NJ with the same views? I'll bet no.

NT

What I dont understand is why everyone feels that just cause Rachel is running July 24th at MTH, why does that mean she wont be running at Saratoga??

She'll have plenty of opportunities to run at saratoga towards the latter stages of that meet.

Didnt she run in the Haskell AND the Woodward last year?

Maybe she wins this race and goes for back to back Woodwards?

Why is everyone convinced you wont see her at Toga??

I doubt they'll want to run her 10f and I doubt they'll want to run her against males off a race that is likely to have as weak a field as this year's Fleur De Lis or Apple Blossom.

Monmouth might try hard to get her back, too, with the Molly Pitcher run I believe the same day as the Personal Ensign.

I hear its a two race deal. Sometime in the next month they will ship Rachel to the shore and have her paraded to Molly Pitcher's well at the site of the Battle of Monmouth. Should be great stuff!

I've heard that the goal is the Lady's Secret, Woodward and Breeders Cup.

Woodward was 9f last year.. did they change it?

Not that I know of.

If she ran in the Woodward after this that would be more in line with Jess Jackson's prior style of campaigning, so hopefully you end up being correct.