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Duvalier 08-21-2010 09:56 AM

Must not be too serious of positives. He only gets 30 days for 5 of them.

Danzig 08-21-2010 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 685719)
Must not be too serious of positives. He only gets 30 days for 5 of them.

well, i know they have classes of drugs, so this one must be a three. but it's not just 30 days and the fine, but the purses go away as well. i guess his trainer stats change as well? besides, 30 days is not a slap on the wrist.

Duvalier 08-21-2010 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 685723)
besides, 30 days is not a slap on the wrist.

I'm sure the horses will continue to run and train the same way as usual...the only difference being a little less etodolac in their system and a change in the name of the trainer which appears in the official track program.

dagolfer33 08-21-2010 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 685717)

I guess they will be "redistributing" the mutuel money that I or anyone else bet in these races as well right? This is the kind of sh!t that, as minor as it actually is, will put racing out of business.

Duvalier 08-21-2010 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by dagolfer33 (Post 685728)
I guess they will be "redistributing" the mutuel money that I or anyone else bet in these races as well right? This is the kind of sh!t that, as minor as it actually is, will put racing out of business.

Keep giving penalties like 30 days for 5 positives and allow the horses to run under a different trainers name during the suspension and things like this will never go away. There really is no strong deterrent to not try to take an edge and maybe push the envelope.

Danzig 08-21-2010 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 685725)
I'm sure the horses will continue to run and train the same way as usual...the only difference being a little less etodolac in their system and a change in the name of the trainer which appears in the official track program.

supposedly (:rolleyes:) they can't, but we have all seen trainers say they are taking a vacation. it's supposed to be punishment, but we all saw how the six month suspension hurt asmussen. he got more business as a result, it's bizarre.
but i do know, if i missed 30 days of work, it would hurt my budget. but i guess it won't hurt his.

Danzig 08-21-2010 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dagolfer33 (Post 685728)
I guess they will be "redistributing" the mutuel money that I or anyone else bet in these races as well right? This is the kind of sh!t that, as minor as it actually is, will put racing out of business.

it would be nice if they could find a way to do that. but those who won on the canani horses might not agree, as they wouldn't want to give their winnings back.

DaTruth 08-21-2010 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 685730)
Keep giving penalties like 30 days for 5 positives and allow the horses to run under a different trainers name during the suspension and things like this will never go away. There really is no strong deterrent to not try to take an edge and maybe push the envelope.

I know it involves different jurisdictions, but something isn't right when you compare some of the punishments meted out to trainers with the one-year suspension that Donnie Meche received for not giving his best effort aboard a Steve Asmussen trained 3-5 favorite in a futurity trial at Delta Downs.

dellinger63 08-21-2010 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid (Post 662580)
I think there's a big difference in vetting these horses to the fullest, amd drugging.

Speaking of calabrese outfit I'm sure the vet bills are pretty extensive, but he has unlimited funds. That should be taken into account

as it turns out there isn't much differece now is there? When it smells like a rat it usually is.

dellinger63 08-21-2010 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 685732)
it would be nice if they could find a way to do that. but those who won on the canani horses might not agree, as they wouldn't want to give their winnings back.

It's a sickening situation. If they keep samples I'd love to see and independent lab come in and do tests.

Scav 09-02-2010 11:31 PM

Heard Canani talking in the paddock today in his Cuban shirt that he stole from his dad that 'my lawyers can't get in contact with you until next week' and he stormed away.

This was after he just put in a 50 cent P4 at Del Mar that cost $250, LOL.

Keep an eye for the horses that got positives, some have been dropped from the clouds even more so then normal and ran horrible. What is hilarious is that people still claim off the guy.

Most importantly, my girl Ingrid Mason can sure wear an Ed Hardy shirt, Drugs would have a field day with her.


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