He already qualifies for the Claiming Crown race. The turf race is 25k and below. The two 16k ones are dirt sprints.

This f'n horse is probably gonna be scratched.

Probably will...but the question is what do you think they get out of the horse? Eat him...their money back...a little profit...or a nice starter horse who's a moneymaker?

Scavs the horse is The Golden Man with a twist your best bet is to claim him for 16 wait 45 days till the lawn is opened at Penn and sart him there.

Argh!

I never said I wanted to claim any of these horses. I wouldn't claim a horse off of Dutrow with anyone's money.

There was a horse at Philly the other day that was a perfect claim but we didn't have time to turn it around because we saw it too late. He was an IN bred that broke his maiden against open company with all his conditions left and could have run against IN breds for big money and dominated. He got claimed by a Philly guy so maybe we still have a shot.

Uhm Scavs the big dog is on a plane surely you can tell whomever to drop a ticket?

It wasn't that. Just alot going on that day and didn't get a chance to look at him, there will be others, and just for you Freddy, I try and find any PA bred that is racing out there. :)

There are 50 decent Indy breds a year current..You missed? Come on Scavs that is all you..BTW they all have an issue

Less then that..... But IN breds can have alot of issues and still romp. Ours can barely take turns correctly and she did great last year.

Drop a zero and you're closer to accurate...

Should be a scratch anyway. Coming back up north soon, and NJ lawn most likely. You don't come back and train a horse after a your best TOP speed figure if there is a major problem. IEAH can make more money in NJ with this horse.

Adagio is not a graded stakes horse at this time, no more than Optimer was when he ran in the Manhattan. This time, it was Adagio who served as Court Vision's rabbit.

So many Tim Tebows on this board it hurts.

:baby:

OMG - this is like deja'vu' all over again, especially with the IN bred......

I love claiming discussions, being a claiming owner - it's always an opportunity to learn something.

I'd love to hear more about the logic of claiming an IN-bred at Philly Park. Can you expand on the thought process, please?

I really, really wanted to avoid getting involved in this thread, but I have to ask you Tom, why not? Indiana has a very solid state-bred program, with good additional bonus structures at the end of each meet. If there is a sound Indiana Bred who can run a 50-60 Beyer, why wouldn't you consider claiming him?

It's an interesting race. Dutrow is also the trainer of the 2nd fav, Formal King. That horse also appears to be a bit of a gift at the $15K claim price, since he's stepping down from $25K pricetag in which he finished 2nd of 11, 7 lengths in front of the rest of the field.

Dutrow was a past trainer (until claimed away in January) of the 3rd fav, Optimer. (Optimer was finally claimed for $25K after winning 4 straight $25K claimers.) In the race he was claimed, he finished 6th.

I like betting against dropdowns like Adagio and to a lesser extent, Formal King. Maybe Gaelic Storm?

--Dunbar

soon as you get out..they suck you back in...

I promise to stay focused grasshoppa'

Isn't Double Entawndra an IN Bred?