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Rudeboyelvis 12-17-2009 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
I know - and that is sad.

You know how whenever a race car drivers dies in a crash - someone inevitably comes on and says "at least he died doing what he loved"

With "Slim" - at least he died terrorizing someone that he loved. The guy was sometimes a menace both on and off the field. More so off of it.

The reality is that there's a lot of sadness in the world. Perhaps I should be sad about it ... maybe even go all MyMissStormCat and start my own 'Fly with the Angels' thread for him.

I just don't have it in me.

I'm from WV when he played there - got his autograph for my nephew, which I planned on giving to him for Christmas as he was his favorite Mountaineer... Now that he's dead, it's on Ebay... Poor little guy will just have to get over it...

The Indomitable DrugS 12-18-2009 12:32 AM

I never even knew he went to WVA. Shows how little of football I watch anymore.

ateamstupid 12-18-2009 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Ah Ateam ... you're kicking your own ass pretty good.

Hoge is the biggest Randy Moss hater of any former professional player that works in the media - BAR F'ING NONE!!!

He's also arguably the most hated media figure by Patriots fans ... and yet, now, he's a "Pats' puppets?"

Link?

I'll give you one of many: http://bostonsportsinnewyork.com/200...has-a-problem/





Study this picture....





Randy Moss is so graceful that when you watch him - it appears that he is making no effort to do anything - unless he's sprinting deep.

The beauty of still pictures is that you don't get mesmorized by gracefullness.

Vonte Davis - a sibling to that tight end from San Fran who is like the worlds greatest physical speciman - just made a great play.

Firstly, how unlike Patriot fans to invent some myopic "no one appreciates us!" conspiracy for anyone who doesn't recognize Chairman Bill or Tawmmy's infinite greatness. Secondly, even if Hoge did hate the Pats once, he's the definition of a media slut. He'll say whatever, whenever, so long as it's different from what other people are saying and thus gives him attention. That's why he's never allowed on any of ESPN's main NFL shows, he's a joke and no one takes him seriously because he changes his ridiculous opinion so goddam often.

Secondly, look at that picture. Moss is standing stationary, effeminately waving at a ball that he stopped on with his eyes closed. What a gladiator. For a contrast, look at the contortion Davis had to do to pick the ball off.

It's too fun arguing with you, because I think deep down in your heart, you know Moss is a quitter on the decline who will never win anything.

jms62 12-18-2009 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Firstly, how unlike Patriot fans to invent some myopic "no one appreciates us!" conspiracy for anyone who doesn't recognize Chairman Bill or Tawmmy's infinite greatness. Secondly, even if Hoge did hate the Pats once, he's the definition of a media slut. He'll say whatever, whenever, so long as it's different from what other people are saying and thus gives him attention. That's why he's never allowed on any of ESPN's main NFL shows, he's a joke and no one takes him seriously because he changes his ridiculous opinion so goddam often.

Secondly, look at that picture. Moss is standing stationary, effeminately waving at a ball that he stopped on with his eyes closed. What a gladiator. For a contrast, look at the contortion Davis had to do to pick the ball off.

It's too fun arguing with you, because I think deep down in your heart, you know Moss is a quitter on the decline who will never win anything.

The joke is on you. You are a Jets fan.

ateamstupid 12-18-2009 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62
The joke is on you. You are a Jets fan.

Right, the joke is on me. You make unfunny joke after unfunny joke about the death of a 26-year-old and the joke is on me. Keep it up.

jms62 12-18-2009 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Right, the joke is on me. You make unfunny joke after unfunny joke about the death of a 26-year-old and the joke is on me. Keep it up.

Look hack, if the guy doesn't fall out of the truck you would have started a thread about what a douchebag he was and how he didn't change and how he should be suspended for life... So the guy does something incredibly stupid, dies and it is forgotton that he was terrorizing his girlfriend. But you really can't control yourself being a Jets fan and all. I bet you are also a Mets fan?

miraja2 12-18-2009 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62
Look hack, if the guy doesn't fall out of the truck you would have started a thread about what a douchebag he was and how he didn't change and how he should be suspended for life... So the guy does something incredibly stupid, dies and it is forgotton that he was terrorizing his girlfriend. But you really can't control yourself being a Jets fan and all. I bet you are also a Mets fan?

Perhaps so.
But, in my opinion, there is a slight difference between calling someone a name like that, and coming on here (as you have) and saying basically, who cares that he died because "the world is safer" with him dead, and that a couple of people failing to hit a pick-4 is a bigger tragedy than the death of a human being.

jms62 12-18-2009 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
Perhaps so.
But, in my opinion, there is a slight difference between calling someone a name like that, and coming on here (as you have) and saying basically, who cares that he died because "the world is safer" with him dead, and that a couple of people failing to hit a pick-4 is a bigger tragedy than the death of a human being.

"Basically saying" is your interperatation numb nutz. But I guess its ok you and your cohorts "Basically saying" Chris Henry is a hero and should be glorified and celebrated regardless of the fact he has been arrested 5 times and he went out terrorizing a women. Wow, wonder if you'd feel the same way if he was a shmo coal miner from Western Kentucky that jumped onto the back of a moving truck and was beating on the roof with his cast while his wife/fiancee/girlfriend was trying to flee.

Coach Pants 12-18-2009 09:55 AM

I would if he was a starter on my Fantasy Coal Miner league.

Danzig 12-18-2009 09:55 AM

who the hell said he was a hero or glorified him? showing empathy does not equate to either of those things.

jms62 12-18-2009 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Mother Teresa in action:

CBS affiliate WBTV reports that the tapes, from Dec. 16, include two calls. The first is an unidentified woman calmly telling the operator that she is driving behind a yellow truck with "a black man on it with no shirt on, and he's got his arm in a cast and black pants on," she told a dispatcher.

"He's beating on the back of this truck window... I don't know if he's trying to break in or something. It just looks crazy. It's a girl driving it." She then says that the truck turned off of the street she was driving on and that she did not follow it.

Wasn't he putting the driver of the truck at extreme risk by doing this? Would this be considered at least reckless endangerment.

jms62 12-18-2009 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
who the hell said he was a hero or glorified him? showing empathy does not equate to either of those things.

Danzig.. Just "Basically saying" .

jms62 12-18-2009 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
I would if he was a starter on my Fantasy Coal Miner league.

At one time he averaged 16 tons a day but was on an indefinite suspension. He was appealing the suspension saying he had gotten his life together. So basically he was not eligible to start in your league.

miraja2 12-18-2009 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62
"Basically saying" is your interperatation numb nutz. But I guess its ok you and your cohorts "Basically saying" Chris Henry is a hero and should be glorified and celebrated regardless of the fact he has been arrested 5 times and he went out terrorizing a women. Wow, wonder if you'd feel the same way if he was a shmo coal miner from Western Kentucky that jumped onto the back of a moving truck and was beating on the roof with his cast while his wife/fiancee/girlfriend was trying to flee.

I don't quite understand why you have resorted to name calling in this discussion, but I suppose that is your decision to make.
You did say that "the world is safer" now that he is dead, and you also did compare his death to a couple of people not hitting a pick-4. You didn't imply, or hint at, or "basically say" those things....you just flat out said them. If that's how you feel, fine. You are entitled to your opinion. But you should at least be honest and admit that nowhere in this thread have I "basically said," or implied, or hinted at the fact that he should be considered a hero. I suppose you can continue to carry on the discussion as if we are saying he was a great guy who should be honored and glorified....but none of us are saying that.

jms62 12-18-2009 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
I don't quite understand why you have resorted to name calling in this discussion, but I suppose that is your decision to make.
You did say that "the world is safer" now that he is dead, and you also did compare his death to a couple of people not hitting a pick-4. You didn't imply, or hint at, or "basically say" those things....you just flat out said them. If that's how you feel, fine. You are entitled to your opinion. But you should at least be honest and admit that nowhere in this thread have I "basically said," or implied, or hinted at the fact that he should be considered a hero. I suppose you can continue to carry on the discussion as if we are saying he was a great guy who should be honored and glorified....but none of us are saying that.

Sorry about the name calling.
1. Since he was beating on his fiancees window of her truck whilst it was traveling down the road showing gross reckless endangerment, wouldn't you say she is safer today. He breaks that window and we now have 2 dead.
2. Again for the upteenth time the P4 comment was an attempt to lighten the mood and not a very good one at that. I have estabished that so if thats how you wish to continue by all means focus on a moot point.
3. You basically used the term "basically said" and then interjected your interpretation that "I didn't care" I just did the same thing and interjected my interpretation of your postings. And please don't insult our intelligence that you actually "care". Have you sent a mass card, flowers, tried to reach out in any way. Did you lose sleep last night, offered a prayer. So don't act holier than though. Posting RIP on a message board is hardly caring. My whole point is I find it absolutely absurd that people simply dismiss someones past or how he went out (wanton reckless endangerment). As far as my caring, I care and am disturbed of the thug mentality that exists in some sports today. I care that we give chance after chance to those that have shown they don't deserve it. I care that his girlfriend may get charged for homocide and her offense was fleeing for her saftey. I care that their kids may have witnessed violence between their parents because it WILL stay with them forever.

randallscott35 12-18-2009 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
who the hell said he was a hero or glorified him? showing empathy does not equate to either of those things.

Kind of

miraja2 12-18-2009 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62
Sorry about the name calling.
1. Since he was beating on his fiancees window of her truck whilst it was traveling down the road showing gross reckless endangerment, wouldn't you say she is safer today. He breaks that window and we now have 2 dead.
2. Again for the upteenth time the P4 comment was an attempt to lighten the mood and not a very good one at that. I have estabished that so if thats how you wish to continue by all means focus on a moot point.
3. You basically used the term "basically said" and then interjected your interpretation that "I didn't care" I just did the same thing and interjected my interpretation of your postings. And please don't insult our intelligence that you actually "care". Have you sent a mass card, flowers, tried to reach out in any way. Did you lose sleep last night, offered a prayer. So don't act holier than though. Posting RIP on a message board is hardly caring. My whole point is I find it absolutely absurd that people simply dismiss someones past or how he went out (wanton reckless endangerment). As far as my caring, I care and am disturbed of the thug mentality that exists in some sports today. I care that we give chance after chance to those that have shown they don't deserve it. I care that his girlfriend may get charged for homocide and her offense was fleeing for her saftey. I care that their kids may have witnessed violence between their parents because it WILL stay with them forever.

:D

The Indomitable DrugS 12-18-2009 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
It's too fun arguing with you, because I think deep down in your heart, you know Moss is a quitter on the decline who will never win anything.

Deep down in what heart?

He's in his 12th season - of course he's somewhat on the decline.

You're talking about the only football player in history who was good enough to be an NFL starter at age 15.

As for him being "a quitter who will never win" I don't know if you're trolling or if you really do have your head that far up your ass.

RockHardTen1985 12-18-2009 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Deep down in what heart?

He's in his 12th season - of course he's somewhat on the decline.

You're talking about the only football player in history who was good enough to be an NFL starter at age 15.

As for him being "a quitter who will never win" I don't know if you're trolling or if you really do have your head that far up your ass.

Hes trolling... I dont know another dude who makes everyone else better.

Antitrust32 12-18-2009 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Hes trolling... I dont know another dude who makes everyone else better.

Steve Nash?


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