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What pissed Hitler off was that after WW1 Gremany as a whole was a depressed place , except for the buisness smart Jewish folks who were educated and more buisness savvy than the rest of the tired broken down war vets . He saw the Jews (even if you just had a Jewish great great grandparent you were considered a Jew) as the one's taking money , jobs and food out of the German people's pockets and mouths. It was his only stance , his only platform to make himself a leader , he had to create a hatred of something or someone to get the people going.The Jews were an easy target , they had money , they owned business's , and they for the most part were doing the most good and he pounced on the chance that he could get the German people to revolt against them. It didnt matter if you were a practicing Jew or not you were a target , if you owned a buisness or appeared to have money weather you were 1/8 Jew or 100% you were to be hated.
I really think it didnt matter that they only believed in God and not Jesus , or if they were a Catholic Jew , it just mattered that you had Jew in you and it was Hitlers only way to become leader was to get the German people to hate them , which he did. |
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Hey banker-boy and Horsey: Honu just earned hisself 20 bucks for that post!:D
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from post #192 in 'world wants obama' thread, written by timmi: "If you get your head outta DailyKos you might find out that Hitler was into Satanism and was trying to create his Master race, thereby needing to cleanse his country from any mixed blood from Jewish, Polish and other lesser citizens that didn't meet with their criteria....you could look it up" |
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"Amongst many of the stories that go with Adolph Hitler is that he was involved in a secret satanist society called the thule group"
post #262, by dalakhani, in the same 'world wants obama' thread. i remember the discussion, so i went back and looked it up to make sure i was remembering correctly that it was others who made those comments. |
Not to pretend to be smarter than The Teacher and the Doorknob ( make a great book title)..but you are quite wrong, Dala.
The Jewish people were put into horrifying conditions because they all had ,as very bad luck would have , a common flaw in Hitlers eyes.The odds on this are tremendous..ie...that millions of people who were of one religion and way of life would all display the same Hitlerthink flaw. But it had absolutely nothing to do with religious belief. |
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i may be incorrect, or oversimplifying, but isn't what makes a person jewish their religious belief? i don't see how you can say that hitlers annihilation of so many jews had nothing to do with their religion. doesn't it have everything to do with it? down thru the centuries, many countries at one point or another expelled their jewish citizens, or encouraged much worse. the group as a whole always seemed an easy target, a scapegoat for whatever ailed the populace as a whole.
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no biggie.
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I see you in a whole new light. You refuse to answer the question. I will lay it out clearly: 1. The Jews were not persecuted because of their religious beliefs. 2. They were persecuted due to numerous social factors one of the major being that they were actually living fairly well in a severely depressed Germany. They were easy targets as they did not resist. And they could be used as scapegoats because "they had all the money" while Germans lived poorly. A mostly innaccurate assessment. The Germans rid the Jews of their business and money as retribution. They did not nail them to crosses. They stole their gold teeth. What the hell is a religious belief Dalkani? What dont you get? You are just wrong. I dont know what more to say. Go read some history. At first I thought it was mere semantics but its not. I know you are understanding what I am trying to say because you are not dumb. But you are very, very disingenuious. |
their 'knack' as you call it for business....i would call that a bit of a stereotype. for years and years-centuries really, back to the middle ages, they had no venue opened to them for business, with many turning to money- lending as most other trades were illegal for jews. so, along with getting harrassed for their religion, they were attacked for usury, and by those who owed them money-or by those who knew they had money, else how could they lend it?
but what it all boils down to, all these centuries, is their religious beliefs. it's because of their faith that they were confined to ghettoes, banned from most trades, attacked, beaten, killed, charged with witchcraft, killing and eating good little christian children, etc, etc. |
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Not true in Germany in the late 30's and 40's. They were very active in Germany in trade and as merchant's but when WWI ended and the depression came on, they became targets largely because of economic misperceptions. Easy targets. |
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