funny, I view Obama followers as the ones that resemble sheep. there is simply nothing of substance there. his greatest accomplishments are his presidential campaign and reading speeches.

the only argument that I see people use that want to support Obama is that George Bush was a bad president. sorry but i need a better reason than that.

SCUDS let's make a pack....if the GOP wins out here in Caliornia

Both of our heads will explode...:D

Jim....everyone is a sheep here. Pillow likes some dude no one has heard of, you like anyone but Obama, Mike likes Obama...If I voted for Gore and Kerry and I'm voting for Obama you can bet it's not because it's not because GDUB was a nightmare...it's a little late for that

I'll be at SA for BC....Can I plant the device?

;)

What exactly had GW done when you voted for him?
What did you see in George Bush?

The Governor of the state of Texas... you dont do much of anything.
The Lt. Governor does, and the Speaker of the House. But not the
Governor. Now his dad had some experience.

Dick Cheney should run...
he has got more experience than anyone, and the Republicans would
spend 4 years on the sidelines.

you started this asinine thread with the chopped up video and now you want to discuss something of substance?

stop posting propaganda. that'll go a long way toward increasing your credibility when you want to have an intelligent discussion.

LOL...I wouldn't have it any other way :tro: :tro:

No, pretty much the TURKISH MUSLIMS would be the so called "moderate Muslims," and they rap their women up in headgear. Can't be too pretty. They almost got kicked out of the presidency by their supreme court, because they couldn't resist fiddling around with a law about this headgear for women.

Tabari IX:113 "Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur'an."


Sorry, but I am not going to have anything to do with someone who follows the teachings of the guy who said this. Not gunna happen.

McCain/Palin make a big move in the polls. they now lead Obama/Biden 54%/44% amongst likely voters according to USA/Gallop.

In a related story, MSNBC just went to Def Con 4.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...-07-poll_N.htm

and Fox just endorsed Alan Keyes

Yea, and Federer is an Ultimate Fighter.

See now this is exactly what Olberman would say
about Fox and I would laugh as I am now.

Actually, in the poll of polls, Obama still leads...as if it matters to the Bush idiots.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/...ef=mpstoryview

:eek:
many on here might not realize that Obama beat Keyes for his senate seat. what a joke that race was. Keyes was brought in from Washington to pinch-hit and never heard from since.

Kansas went from being 60% McCain to 70% McCain. Oklahoma is now probably pushing 75% McCaine. If you have polls about Ohio, Colorado, Nevada, Virginia, New Hampshire, then that would be important.

You should read how he first got elected as a representative to
the State of Illinois. This is really interesting. The guy is a killer
politician.

Thnx for getting that...

but Oberweiss is still available