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Rileyoriley 09-09-2008 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by geeker2
If they had an all nude convention I'd watch:D


The thought of the candidates in the nude makes me wish for GPK's "I just threw up in my mouth" icon.

GPK 09-09-2008 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
:rolleyes:

:cool:

dalakhani 09-09-2008 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I dont believe that AMT is necessary but if it is going to stay (mostly for political reasons because god forbid anyone be seen as helping the "rich") than it absolutely should be adjusted to modern income levels.

How can you say that $250k is the number at which it is ok to add burden? Especially considering the wide gap in CoL throughout the country? Surely a family living in manhattan versus a family living in Montana is an important factor?

My racetrack analogy isnt off, what is the difference? Raising takeout is akin to raising taxes because in theory the extra takeout is used to make improvements or added to purses to put on a better product. But as in govt, that rarely happens and in the end all it succeeds in is taking money that would add to handle (the economy) out of circulation which shrinks handle.

I dont think you read my response at all. I said that AMT is necessary and perhaps it could be altered. If not for AMT, there are many multi millionaires that could make their effective tax rates below 20%....Less than your average middle class worker. Is that fair?

As for the 250k, it really is hard to come up with a number. I guess they settled on a number that was about four times the median household income. It would probably be better if families in areas like mine or new york, etc could work off of some kind of sliding scale.

My point about "handle" was that its not just democrats bitching about it. Everyone does.

GPK 09-09-2008 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rileyoriley
The thought of the candidates in the nude makes me wish for GPK's "I just threw up in my mouth" icon.


DOD....you and I can run the all nude campaign

GPK/DOD '08
"Nude and Crude":tro:

Danzig 09-09-2008 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
You guys are making it very hard to hijack this thread. Geez....

hey, more are trying. geeker and i were just starting a nude convention discussion.
but i'm afraid i may have stopped it in its tracks with my mikulski comment...

Danzig 09-09-2008 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
DOD....you and I can run the all nude campaign

GPK/DOD '08
"Nude and Crude":tro:

or nude and lewd? hello!

geeker2 09-09-2008 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
even if barbara mikulski was there??


Is she that porn star that starred in Blazing Zippers?

GPK 09-09-2008 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
or nude and lewd? hello!


Care to join us babe?;)

Rileyoriley 09-09-2008 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
DOD....you and I can run the all nude campaign

GPK/DOD '08
"Nude and Crude":tro:




I think we'd be "Nude and Boo'd".:D

GPK 09-09-2008 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rileyoriley
I think we'd be "Nude and Boo'd".:D


If thats the case, forget 'em. Just be you and I nude then:{>: :{>:

SCUDSBROTHER 09-09-2008 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
I dont think you read my response at all. I said that AMT is necessary and perhaps it could be altered. If not for AMT, there are many multi millionaires that could make their effective tax rates below 20%....Less than your average middle class worker. Is that fair?

As for the 250k, it really is hard to come up with a number. I guess they settled on a number that was about four times the median household income. It would probably be better if families in areas like mine or new york, etc could work off of some kind of sliding scale.

My point about "handle" was that its not just democrats bitching about it. Everyone does.

You asking him about fair? LOL...He said he went through Catholic School, but slept through religion.

pgardn 09-09-2008 09:55 PM

This is not how debates in a democratic society end.
No joking around trying to push it all under the rug.

Let us proceed to the fisticuff stage.
The physical brawl should ensue.

Cannon Shell 09-09-2008 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
I dont think you read my response at all. I said that AMT is necessary and perhaps it could be altered. If not for AMT, there are many multi millionaires that could make their effective tax rates below 20%....Less than your average middle class worker. Is that fair?

As for the 250k, it really is hard to come up with a number. I guess they settled on a number that was about four times the median household income. It would probably be better if families in areas like mine or new york, etc could work off of some kind of sliding scale.

My point about "handle" was that its not just democrats bitching about it. Everyone does.

I did read your response. Did you not see my little rebuttals? You say AMT is necessary, I dont. We disagree and there is no way i am getting into why i think that its elimination could be covered much more effectively because i just cant type that much.

Everybody may bitch about the takeout but Dems are in effect voting for Brunetti and his takeout/tax plan.

dalakhani 09-09-2008 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
None that I know about.

I am in contact on a daily basis with people like this and many that are worse off than that.

How many of these people you see every day are working a 2nd job?

And i didnt mean to call you out by asking about kids and im sorry if it came out that way becausee it wasnt my intention.

There are plenty of middle class i see working two full time jobs right now to make ends meet and they still can't do it.

There was a couple that just came to our bank the other day. Perfect example. Both teachers making combined 110k a year. Two young children. Only debt is their cars. They wanted to buy a house in the outer reaches. a modest four bedroom with about 2500 square feet. Totally middle class neighborhood and the house was about 500k. So lets do the math.

Gross income 9k per month

Car payments= 600 per month.

student loans= 300 per month.

mortgage payment=3500 per month

Credit card debt= zero



lets do the math here GPK. 9k gross means they are taking home about 6000 per month. Debts equal 4500 per month. Now add utitlies, phone, insurance, food, gas, etc.

This is the middle class in our area. What is wrong with this picture?

Cannon Shell 09-09-2008 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
You asking him about fair? LOL...He said he went through Catholic School, but slept through religion.

What are you a priest? Or a nun?

Coach Pants 09-09-2008 09:58 PM


dalakhani 09-09-2008 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I did read your response. Did you not see my little rebuttals? You say AMT is necessary, I dont. We disagree and there is no way i am getting into why i think that its elimination could be covered much more effectively because i just cant type that much.

Everybody may bitch about the takeout but Dems are in effect voting for Brunetti and his takeout/tax plan.

NOOOOO.

Obama's tax plan helps 95% of the population.

Brunetti's takeout plan only helped the house.

Now, i would favor a takeout plan that would help 95% of the players.

Danzig 09-09-2008 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by geeker2
Is she that porn star that starred in Blazing Zippers?

lol
god forbid. she's one of the senators from maryland. at least i think she's still in office.


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