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oracle80 12-21-2006 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Are you impressed at all with Showing Up? (excuse my stupid questions, I didn't follow racing when the horses mentioned above raced)

I know I am. I think at age four he has a chance to be truly special. His last two races this year were just awesome. I wasn't sold completely until the last two races, but now I am. Hes the goods.

blackthroatedwind 12-21-2006 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Are you impressed at all with Showing Up? (excuse my stupid questions, I didn't follow racing when the horses mentioned above raced)


He's pretty good. We'll find out more next year. I hear Barclay is pointing him for Cheltingham. He wants to go MUCH longer......don't ya know.

oracle80 12-21-2006 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Bob Beinish wishes you all the best during the holidays.

For those of you who don't know who Bob is...he's the man who gave Mikey his nickname. He's also the only socially acceptable person to work for Ragozin.

His punishment? He sits next to me at work.

Please tell Bobby I wish him a Happy Hanukah. Hes one of the nicest and classiest guys I ever met. Also tell him I've been KR free for 22 months and am attending a victims support group for guys who dealt with him.
Give him by email if you would I would love to speak with him.
horseagent2001@yahoo.com

KirisClown 12-21-2006 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I like to think of him as Shmecke.

They only seemed bad as we were coming off some genuinely good horses. Compared to the dreck we see nowadays they were very good. We live in a world where people actually think English Channel is really good. 20 years ago he would have been lucky to have hit the board in a good turf stake.

That's true... they were slobs in comparison to Lure, Paradise Creek, Bien Bien etc..

KirisClown 12-21-2006 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Well not brutal, but I guess I never had much luck with any of those horses.
You know how some years you just have a division figured out and do well betting the particular races on that division and some years you just always miss?
That was one of the years I ALWAYS missed. I don't think I cashed a ticket on a grade one grass race that year.

True enough... I had a nice year in 96 with those turf races.. so maybe im biased.

oracle80 12-21-2006 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KirisClown
True enough... I had a nice year in 96 with those turf races.. so maybe im biased.

I think thats how people tend to remember divisions and years.
I had my best luck ever with the '94 3yo fillies. I made a huge hit on a Sardula-lakeway exacta. And then my biggest single race score ever when heavenly Prize beat Lakeway up here.
'98 three year olds drive me to insanity as an example, I never guessed right all year long with those. You know like you miss the wedding on a horse and then you give up and play him and you get to attend the funeral. 98 3Yo's and 96 grass horses sent me to lots of funerals.

Sightseek 12-21-2006 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
He's pretty good. We'll find out more next year. I hear Barclay is pointing him for Cheltingham. He wants to go MUCH longer......don't ya know.

Can Revolution and every other name he was known as confirm this? :D

Gander 12-21-2006 10:00 AM

Paradise Creek had an acceleration that would leave Eng Channel and Cacique 5 lengths behind in the blink of an eye. Those were the days.

KirisClown 12-21-2006 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Paradise Creek had an acceleration that would leave Eng Channel and Cacique 5 lengths behind in the blink of an eye. Those were the days.


Totally agree.... his 94 Manhattan was visually spectacular... 10F in 1:57.79 under a hold. It's too bad he couldnt relax in the BC...

Gander 12-21-2006 10:04 AM

And horses like Skip Away, Cigar and Holy Bull had heart and actually raced!

The 90's sure sucked for music but were great for horse racing.

oracle80 12-21-2006 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Paradise Creek had an acceleration that would leave Eng Channel and Cacique 5 lengths behind in the blink of an eye. Those were the days.

5 lengths? Are you kidding me? Try 15 lengths geared down. Those two horses couldnt run down the Tin man off that slow pace. How would they fare chasing a horse like paradise who would be goinng 15 lengths quicker under a snug hold?

blackthroatedwind 12-21-2006 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Can Revolution and every other name he was known as confirm this? :D


Tagg is sort of silly in that every horse he has he says " he/she wants to go long "...other than that I think he's as good a trainer as there is. Honestly, I don't care what anyone says, the job he did with Funny Cide was masterful. His personality prevented him from being hailed as a training genius.

I heard, from a reliable source unlike the board liars that formerly posted here, that Showing Up won't return to the dirt because of soundness issues. Makes sense especially in light of what happened at Hollywood.

oracle80 12-21-2006 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Gander
And horses like Skip Away, Cigar and Holy Bull had heart and actually raced!

The 90's sure sucked for music but were great for horse racing.

Tim you missed that theme, we talked about it a few weeks ago.
I said Holy Bull would have left any of this years glory horses gasping for air.
He'd go 46 and change in a two turn route race and still kick away with another gear.

Gander 12-21-2006 10:07 AM

Mike- Paradise Creek's only really bad race was when Terry threw down 2 grand to win on him. I was there that day. It wasnt pretty. The veins in his head were popping and he was sweating like a marathoner. He then asked me to borrow a grand for the next race.

oracle80 12-21-2006 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Mike- Paradise Creek's only really bad race was when Terry threw down 2 grand to win on him. I was there that day. It wasnt pretty. The veins in his head were popping and he was sweating like a marathoner. He then asked me to borrow a grand for the next race.

I think Terry and Seattleallstar are related somehow. Two biggest mushes I ever saw, they posessed magical qualitites. Either one of them could stop a train dead in its tracks with a wager.
Mott should have been quoted after that race as saying "Well he trained good and looked good coming into the race and he had a good trip but Terry The Jinx made a big wager on him and it was just too much to overcome. We'll regroup and just do our best and hope Terry doesn't bet him next time out."

oracle80 12-21-2006 10:13 AM

Gander which do you think was a bigger feat? Terry stopping Paradise Creek's great run or Seattleallstar snapping Cambiocorsa's incredible win streak?

Gander 12-21-2006 10:31 AM

Cambiorsca for sure. Because she wasnt facing all that great competition that day and still lost, never threatening to be a winner. Paradise Creek was at least facing the best and ran respectable.

KirisClown 12-23-2006 08:58 AM

Here's part 2.... a little easier.

http://www.funtrivia.com/playquiz/qu...751c52a10.html

oracle80 12-23-2006 09:27 AM

7 myself, I blew on My Flag, who beat Flawlessly, and the dead heat in the Met.

Danzig 12-23-2006 09:29 AM

they need to change it from funtrivia...it's not fun when you don't do well...

oracle80 12-23-2006 09:31 AM

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they need to change it from funtrivia...it's not fun when you don't do well...

Zieg I love it, I like em when they are this hard.
Kiri comes up with some truly great stuff!!!!
Thanks Kiri, nothing like a trivia walk down memory lane to make us smile.
Seems like remembering great horses and races from yesteryear is more fun than remembering the recent 5 horse fields.

KirisClown 12-23-2006 09:41 AM

Glad you guys like them...

I'll post Part 3 next week...

oracle80 12-23-2006 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by KirisClown
Glad you guys like them...

I'll post Part 3 next week...

Kiri keep em coming!!!

Danzig 12-23-2006 09:59 AM

if i continue my rate of improvement, based on a small sampling so far, i'll need a bunch more of these before i re-gain any self respect!!:eek:


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