who does auburn think they can get to coach especially being under serious investigation. sorry but you Won't convince me that $cam didn't take the program down.

regardless of what happens in the SECCG, BAMA's had another good year. the seniors are playing for thier 2nd SECC and 3rd NC ring in 4yrs. pretty good career!

as for nd, they're Still the WORST team in the top 10 and osu is the second worst.:wf

A bitter pill for osu to swallow...go undefeated and it doesn't mean a thing. Awwwww, poor buckeyes.

Your pathetic with your blind hate. Didn't they beat Stanford who is in the top 10? Let me guess, that was lucky and they are still better than ND? I can't wait ril January 7, hopefully that will shut people like you up.

I'm not a Notre Dame fan, but this is silly. You're certain that they would have no chance against an inconsistent team like LSU? Or Georgia, who was destroyed by South Carolina during a season where their signature win came courtesy of a miserable game by Florida?

I think ND would be a great match-up for a team like Oregon, given that they are very similar to Stanford.

I will say that I think Alabama will destroy Georgia this week. They are very fortunate to be in the SEC Championship game. The fact that they led Fla 10-9 despite being +2 in turnovers at the 9 minute mark of the game is amazing. They also fed on the little sisters of the SEC, facing a grand total of 2 ranked teams. The Tide -7.5 seems like a terrific bet.

U only have 1 chance to win this matchup: If RHT picks Bama.

So let me save everyone the time now... The jokes will be Notre Dame has no shot now, the mush has hit again. Blah Blah Blah... That’s fine, I know what I’m talking about though. Notre Dame is legit. I will be making my biggest wager ever on them vs whoever they play in the BCS title game. Bama minus 14, Georgia minus 10. COMICAL, REALLY. I would play Notre Dame in a pick.
Let’s look at this. Start with Oklahoma.... The 2 weeks before playing ND Oklahoma scored 63 and 52 points. The 4 weeks since losing at home to ND as a 14 point favorite Oklahoma has scored 35,42,50 and 51 points going 4-0 since. I think these numbers speak pretty favorably of ND's defense. Let’s now look at Michigan St, and I’ll be honest they have been a complete disappointment. I checked 3 different preseason polls. They were ranked anywhere from 8th-16th in the country. In a way they are fascinating to me at least. Other than the ND loss they have lost 5 games by a combined 13 points. The Northwestern loss bad. The other 3 are to Nebraska, Wisconsin and undefeated Ohio St. Notre Dame buried Michigan St 20-3. Far and away Michigan St’s worst loss of the season. Stanford next. I believe this is a top 6-8 team in the country right now. If there was an 8 team playoff Stanford could win it. Solid football team. They have a bad loss at Washington, they were a 9 point road favorite. Other than that they have been rock solid. They have an NFL running back, and according to Foxsports.com they have 5 other NFL players on the roster. Since losing to Notre Dame they have won 6 games in a row w/ 3 of those wins coming against teams who were ranked 15th or higher at that time. Stanford is legit. They were somehow a 22 point dog at Oregon…. Call it a red board, but this guy crushed that. Even had some cash money line. Maybe I’m too high on Stanford but I believe they are a rock solid top team. I’m not going to mention any more teams. Everyone beat USC this year. Michigan was down. I find this interesting though. Notre Dame beat 3 teams that are in the BCS top 19 right now. The SEC teams that everyone loves……..
Georgia beat 1 team in the current BCS top 25. 1 team that was Florida. Alabama beat Michigan and LSU. I don’t get all the hate for the Notre Dame schedule. Notre Dame would beat Texas A&M right now, anywhere they played them. Alabama lost to them in Tuscaloosa. Back to Georgia that team played a joke of a schedule. Any sensible non SEC homer can see this. Georgia played 2 good teams all year. They got destroyed by South Carolina and they barely beat Florida. I really wish Florida had beat Georgia, because Florida is the best team out of the SEC. Unfortunate they lost the head 2 head. Bottom line is Notre Dame is a great team. A great defense and a good enough offense. The Ohio St hate is comical also. It comes from one of this boards true gems, so I will refrain from defending them. Let’s be clear about them….. They will win a National Championship within the next 2 years. Urban Meyer is that good, and Braxton Miller will be that good.

[quote=dagolfer33;904002]U only have 1 chance to win this matchup: If RHT picks Bama.[

I really cant wait. This team is legit. Watch.

You'd play them in a pick? I'm in. Name the terms.

Terms? Like the last bet.... I said I would not post. I slide like 3 posts in. I give your brisnet ADVANCED forever and you say post I dont care, but I still look like an ******* for posting even though you said It was cool. Like those terms????
You name the terms. Make it good though. Be clever, not boring.
You know pretty much everything I said was fact in my college football rant, your only response was the pick. Because your smart enough to know theres value in that wager even if ND wins.

Help me understand something. No posting, means no posting, right?

It doesn't mean slip three posts in. That's why you looked like a douche. Then I told you I didn't care, because you couldn't be a man of your word. You tried to bribe me with the Bris stuff and I told you that might work with others, but it isn't necessary.

How about this. ND and whoever their opponent is. You take ND, I take whoever it is and the bet is straight up, no points. Loser has to make a $100 donation to the winners charity of choice and it needs to be proved the donation was made, by a moderator here, or that person gets kicked off the board.

What do you think?

I didn't read anything past the first paragraph, but it would not surprise me at all if most was wrong and you mixed a redboard in.

Ill own most of that, but to be clear. Your exact words were "what you got bris, formulator. Ill take it all"
Anyway I dont care who I give what to, I get it for free. You can post the log in for the entire board. It would eventually change because of the hits, but I could care less.
Lets be crystal clear about the wager. We will assume it is Joe. Byk is busy. The loser sends the $100 to him, he makes donation. Within 2 weeks of the game. I believe its the 6th or 9th. So we can call it Jan 21st. I agree to this.

No need to send the money to Joey, Steve or Nick. I'm sure they are all busy. Just make the donation and then show them proof, like a receipt or something like that.

I've made bets with people in the past on the board (ask GPK) and lost and sent him a check that week. It doesn't have to be difficult.

Sure. If the point is to prove if I did or did not make a donation, whatever.
Yes I agree.

Good.

The reason to show proof to them, is so it can be verified. Unfortunately I have been in bets where people have lost and failed to make similar donations and it was a waste of my time.

This way, a charity gets some money.

Ill make the donation.

:rolleyes:



it's a shame that whoever loses the sec championship will most likely drop below fla-who will actually benefit by having missed the finale. that makes no sense.
but then, it's also a shame that teams who are well up in the standings will get a lesser bowl because of how the bcs games are filled. ga, bama, or fla will be out of a top bowl. conferences with an automatic berth will have a far less deserving team getting in. too bad. yet another reason why every single game counts. one loss could cost you, even if you're inside the top five.

In what sense does Florida benefit?
This year more then any other year proves there needs to be a playoff. I feel8 teams could be National Champions this year. The 8 are.... Notre Dame, Bama, Georgia, Ohio St, Stanford, Oregon, Florida and even Texas A&M. I also feel Georgia is clearly the worst of the 8. Just look at the schedule they played. Its a joke.

Darren....As much as it pains me to say this, I disagree with you about ND. Unfortunately, with most of my pending in laws and family ND alum I have watched every freakin game this year and although I still despise them as much as ever, I have to admit that they are the real deal. I think Alabama is going to have their hands full, especially trying to run the ball.

because florida will most likely end up moving ahead of a division winner, due to the fact that someone will lose the sec championship game. of course it happens every year, where division winners play that extra game, thus falling below teams who don't get that far. in other words, teams get penalized for making it to play for their conference.

I apologize. I assumed you were talking about the BCS title game. I agree with you. Florida likely ends up in a BCS game and Georgia won't. I think if Georgia upsets Bama all 3 teams end up in a BCS game.

Your word means very little to me as you know, so this way, we'll just know for sure.

nope. bcs games are conference limited. so a crappy big east team will get in, because they're guaranteed a spot, but a good sec won't, because they aren't allowed more than one.


http://www.bcsfootball.org/news/story?id=4819597

The champions of the Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12, and Southeastern conferences will have automatic berths in one of the participating bowls through the 2013 regular season.


No more than two teams from a conference may be selected, regardless of whether they are automatic qualifiers or at-large selections, unless two non-champions from the same conference are ranked No. 1 and No. 2 in the final BCS Standings.


and then there's this:

The pairings may not be altered by removing the Big Ten Champion or Pac-12 champion from the Rose Bowl.




and people want to know why there's no big playoff series? because, right now, money, big bowls and the attention it brings are guaranteed to these conferences. the lesser teams benefit as well, because many conferences divide bowl money won. so, each year the pac 12 and big 10 know they get a cut of the rose bowl, regardless of who does what. if you go to a playoff, the end result would still not be 'the best get in'. it would be 'the best who win their conference' just like it is now.

I don't care who they play, but if it's Georgia I am 100% confident ND will win the title. They played a soft schedule of only 2 ranked opponents, one of which blew them out 35-7 in south Carolina. I'll take Kelly over richt coaching and having a mon to prepare any day. I'll still be confident if it's bam a, just a lot more so if it's the dawgs.

http://www.teamrankings.com/college-...hedule-by-team


note that georgia is considered to have played the 23rd toughest schedule.

notre dame? 25th.

Who have they played other than s Carolina and Florida, you tell me.

i didn't write that web page, take it up with them.

Glad you believe everything you see on the Internet!!!!! This site has nd at 8 and Georgia at 27 SOS so I guess you can find it any way you want. Truth is if you look at both their schedules you will know nd had a tougher one, that is if you know ANYTHING about college football.

http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/c..._rankings.html

I'm trying to defend ND believe it or not Austin, but even you have to admit that they should have lost the Pitt game. The refs blew it multiple times. How could they not see there are two guys both wearing #2 on the field at the same time...on the same team:zz:

Yeah I thought they were going to lose many times during that game, buy somehow they didn't and that is what story book seasons are all about. They aren't about blowouts, they are about close calls, controversy, and just finding a way to win the game. 1 more to go, at the beginning of the season I told my dad I just wanted to be able to watch ND play for it all one time with him, I was 2 in 88 the last time they won it all. Team of destiny and my son is 2 yrs old right now as well, coincidence??? I think not lol

:rolleyes:

so, if i even tried to argue the point, i automatically don't know anything about college football. that's rich.

Your a nd basher is way I'm saying. I believe you know college football but your one of those people who had sooooo much hate for ND tat you will do whatever and find whatever you can to try to downplay their season. Deep down you know better but you won't admit it.

i don't hate them at all. i'm not biased in any way. i think they're the beneficiary of a lot of bias from the press, etc. it's got nothing to do with 'deep down' anything. when one considers the bsc, and how they choose bowl recipients, and notre dame is listed specifically....well, there's a huge reason for that, and it's got a lot to do with bias. name another school specifically listed. there isn't one.

as for SOS. fla has played a tougher one than any of the three teams ahead of them.

Bob, i hate nd as much or more than anyone, especially because of fans like IoND. i also think i've watched enough and i'm big enough college football fan to give a team it's due credit. the nd defense is nice but not great and the offense is average at best. the schedule fell apart for them to win and they still struggle to make 11-0. i'm saying they are the worst 11-0 team i can remember and will be the worst team to win it all, (if they do) that i can remember.

i'm not sure what Bama will do saturday against UGa. IF Bama is Focused, they'll win. honestly i'm disappointed with the Bama offense and the OL. there have been times they have not dominated like the should. and this is Not a great bama defense but i've known that all along. this defense is good and has shown some guts when needed.
UGa is more talented than nd as far as that goes Lsu, Fla and T-a&m are more talented than nd. sadly IoNd is probably right, IF Uga wins the SEC, nd will win all. mark richt can NOT keep that teams focus at all! Uga's nat'l champ. is this weekend. richt can never keep those boneheads focused and out of troublefor 6 weeks.

12-0..., no bias needed.

12-0 don't cut them short.

that's this year. that's not what has gotten them all the preferential treatment all these years, and better bowl game bids when others with better records got passed over.
and fla would be 12-0 with the schedule dame had. so would bama, a and m, and a host of others.

let's look at dame's opponents this year.

navy. :rolleyes: 7-4 yeah, a real powerhouse
purdue 3-5. dame won by 3.
michigan state ended at .500 6-6
michigan, got their asses handed to them by 'bama 41-14. lost to dame 13-6.
miama (not the hurricanes) :rolleyes:
stanford, quality opponent. had to go to ot for that one, no shame for either one.
byu. lol squeaked by 17-14.
oklahoma-second best opponent faced by dame after stanford.
pitt, in ot. pitt. another win by 3.
bc. lol they just fired their coach cause they suck
wake. sigh
usc. 7-5. lost to every ranked team they faced this year.


yeah, tough schedule.... /sarcasm

after it's all over-how many quality opponents did they face? how many did others, such as fla (who it seems has faced a tougher schedule than many, including dame/georgia) square off against? where are all the opponents ranked now compared to through the season? that's what tells the tale.

All I know is notre dame played 9 bowl eligible teams which will be 10 if Pitt wins this week. Bama has beat 5 and Georgia has beat 4 teams who are bowl eligible. Facts are facts.

Check out this article, it's a good one. You do realize that notre dame has a lot of players who were also given scholarship offers from premiere SEC schools right, this isn't a team with a bunch of low star recruits.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--...205348035.html

notre dame had to squeak by multiple, weak opponents. did you look at bama's scores this year? they lost to the aggies, ranked-and not going to the poinsettia bowl by the way-but their closest margin was vs lsu-also in the top ten. they beat michigan by a huge margin, what was the notre dame score in that?
i'm looking at everything without a bias either way. unlike some on here, and certainly unlike you.

no doubt you're proud they got to the title game, as you should be. enjoy it. but don't make them out to be some world beater who is heads and shoulders the best. they aren't.

i'm pulling for the bulldogs in the championship, as i don't want bama in there. if it's bama vs dame, i'd rather nd won it.