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And no, what you state above is most certainly not my contention. That's just another superficial one-liner made up of the prejudiced assumptions floating around your crazy, angry mind. Quote:
Don't go away whining you are a victim. That really makes you look shallow. But at least you make me quite happy I no longer consider myself a Republican, because you guys are angry all the time, and it's beyond tiresome to listen to the constant angry hate when trying to debate politics. |
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It has been my experience that American workers in my business are generally the ones who claim "exempt" on their tax forms or want to work for cash or fill out a 1099 and never file, not the "foreign" workers. |
yep, Riot, Clip Clop sounds so angry and hateful in every one of his posts... and you sound so sane, happy, and rational.
You are 100% the "Lefty" version of Sean Hannity. |
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Funny thing is all those middle class people who started investing in wall street in the 90's weren't complaining when they were making money hand over fist and filling up their retirement accounts on bs internet companies when riding that bubble on many of the same failed investments that everyone complains about now. What about the hundreds of billions of dollars union pension funds have invested in wall street investments? No complaints when their investments in these same companies that they demonize are profitable? |
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But that's not the way to make money on Wall Street for some time now. That's the point and why people are angry. The way big money is made now is not purchasing stock in companies, but buying and selling packages of crap like mortgage derivatives. No longer is it buying and selling hard assets and business acumen. You have Wall Street companies that sell stuff to their investors, then the company takes the short position. And it hasn't been the investors making money. |
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Geesh, do you guys pay no attention at all? :D Is it really easier to pretend that because you don't see the elephant, no creature such as an elephant could possibly exist? |
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Think about it kids are young so they can work more hours, dont get serious ilnesses like adults do and are a long way from pensions! Yes major corporations are all looking to repeal child labor laws. |
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Tell me, what do you think about the Republican state rep child labor law change proposal in Missouri prohibiting employment of children under 13, and also that children less than 13 can work in mines, work with hazardous equipment, etc? Or the GOP rep in Georgia, that wants children to be allowed to work increased hours, and until 11pm? Or the two bills in House Committee, GOP-sponsored? |
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I have some Berkshire Hathaway. Buffet just bailed out Bank of America. I don't agree, and I think Bank of America sucks, and should have been allowed to go bankrupt, but now that I own some of them, I hope they make obscene legal profits. |
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are these wonderful new and improved numbers based on the spending default deal they passed along with the debt ceiling increase? i am figuring it is, because it is the only new funding change that is going to happen unless the supercommittee comes up with other ideas. and if it is, how do you feel about those numbers if it is based on a deal you derided? |
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i will have to read that when i get home in ten days.
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i read that article yesterday evening when i got to the hotel....thought it was interesting.
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The Stimulus. It worked. It raised employment
That was an interesting opinion article in the WSJ.
But so are these, compiled this week (and being completely ignored by right-wing media, including the Rupert-Murdoch-owned editorial board of the WSJ) "The Stimulus worked" http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...bibJ_blog.html Quote:
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How can that not be valid? Teachers are not paid hourly, they are paid a salary for a "school year", whatever that might be locally. It's clear that in the US we don't value our teachers, financially, as highly as many other countries. That's a shame. If you want the best and brightest in the profession, you treat them well and make the profession respected and admired in society. In the United States, we blame teachers for causing financial hardships on our local taxing districts (yeah, like they physically go in and steal the money? That it doesn't take the town to tax and decide what to spend on?) and we call them freeloaders and insult them. And bust their unions. |
of course it matters. whenever it is suggested that school go all year, raher than half, the first things teachers say is they would have to be paid more for working more.
also, what are class sizes elsewhere? benefits, pensions, etc? days off, hours per day worked, planning periods, etc. its all part of the total compensation package. hamburg jr high and hs teachers have students in their classes for a sum total of four and a half hours a day for 178 days a year~which is less than half of a year. how does that schedule and pay compare to the countries you listed? |
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Try searching on each country, and determining their school year, benefits, pension, class size, etc. if you would like to know it. It's apparent that for a school year, for teachers with 15 years experience, many other countries pay more than the US, whether compared by GDP or even by straight salary. If you suspect that's not true for some reason, or want to break that information down into hourly salary, etc, do the research and post that for us. |
no ma'am, i do not have a job ahead of me. it is your assertion that other countries offer higher compensation; the burden of proof falls on you to back up your assertion. its why i asked the question.
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You want to rip that data apart, YOU do it. Edit: and here is the link for the data http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/20...und-the-world/ |
when i post something, i make sure its verified first.
besides, im in chattanooga tn enjoying the bourbon, on my phone, and certainly unable to do your dirty work for you. time to eat some ribs. when you have complete info, post it. |
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Enjoy your bourbon and ribs:) |
oh, i see you edited your post above and added a link. read the link, not the wealth of info needed to make an adequate comparison.
guess it'll have to wait til i get home, since you don't seem interested in proving your point. |
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And you accusation of "make sure it's verified" is complete nonsense you make up out of thin air. I posted information about teacher salaries compared to the world and provided the link. Yes, I gave you the data source - if YOU don't like what it says, YOU are the one that has to bring different data to the table. And BTW, the information you want on teacher hours is right there on the page - if you had really bothered to look. I am not responsible for proving your arguments against a link. :D |
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Yeah, way to go, Timmi :tro: And Danzig: Somebody asked what American teachers made compared to other countries. I posted a whole bunch of countries. You said - clearly without even looking at it - that what I posted was invalid in your opinion (you wanted the data presented another way), and that being invalid according to your standards is somehow magically my fault. Baloney. I gave the link. If YOU don't like the way data was posted compared to GDP and straight salary comparison, if YOU don't think the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development doesn't put out good data, I suggest YOU bring other data the way "you want it" to the table. And, btw, the "way you want it" is listed on the page I posted. |
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