That effort ain't gonna win the BC Classic...gonna be a whole lot tougher to run down Quality Road and others than Switch.

She's not running in the classic. They will take the easy way out.

All out to beat Switch. No wonder they didn't want to run in the Goodwood.

Well at least she beat a 3yo filly at something.

Was Rinterval scratched because of the death threats?? if so, that would be insane

There are pollsters at Hollywood and they're asking a few questions


A sample..

Who is the greatest musician of all time?
John Lennon 1%
Bob Dylan 0%
Mozart 0%
Justin Bieber 99%

Her consistency is just amazing, there is no denying that. It's just too bad she has been coddled for so long.

I would say Zenyatta probably won the race when Switch switched to the wrong lead late in the race and lost her momentum and stride.

Z was pretty lucky today.

I could be wrong though.

Nah Z didn't want to hurt her feelings. She's all about girl power and the girls gotta stick together.

I was grateful for ESPN.

Both announcers did a great job...

Is the race @ GP?:rolleyes:

(and will Pletcher have that extra special elixir?)

No. It's not at Hollywood Park, either.

:tro::tro:

Nice little tune-up for the big mare

Time to go HOME now … and let it all hang out…

The notion that Zenyatta is the greatest horse of all time is the greatest mass misunderstanding of reality since people thought the world was flat.

While her place in history is grossly exaggerated, there's no denying that it takes a special horse to implement that particular running style and still own a perfect record (no matter who the competition may be). Horses that spot the field open lengths at the break EVERY time out, are bound to 'reap what they sew', sooner or later.

I find it compelling that her career's most interesting litmus test also doubles as her swan song. Those that knock her have ample opportunity to bet against her at the end of the month.

Are you aruond alot of crack?

Nope, legitimate question considering someone else posted something about her receiving death threats.

Anyways, I read she flipped in the paddock so that answers my question.

I think she's going to win the Classic (if they don't puss out, big if). But if she does, she'll be the most overbet Classic winner in history.

Now you think zenyatta wins the classic! What about railtrip?
 

Ok stupid now your jumping on the zenyatta band wagon! Are you kidding me just a few days ago you said rail trip was better! What happened? Hell i was impressed how fly down did in first attempt against older. As for you people still bashing zenyatta, are you kidding me! Shes won 19 RACES IN A ROW! I don't care who you are that is impressive! She's amazing and it seems like she like to toy with the horses up until the last moment and then kicks in and goodbye! One more race to go! She wins the classic, she is one of the best ever! Go zenyatta!:rolleyes:

Oh my god

oh, not the dread 'you'd love to have ___in your barn'?! how original...

In my book, Zenyatta is tied for the best ever. I say if she retires now, she can go down as tied for the best ever.

If she runs in the BCC and loses (I think she'll lose), she gets dropped from the all time great list, since the other horse that won 19 in a row never lost.

It all hinges on the BCC!!

You could not ask for better drama.

I appreciate the way you inserted a random complement for Fly Down right in the middle of everything else here. Do you mind if I adopt that style? Wayne Catalano wins a lot of races at Arlington Park. I think it is a good posting style you demonstrate here, and I believe I might enjoy using it. It could be especially useful in the politics forum.

Are you singling her in the BC?

Going off that, I'll throw somethin out there that nebrady will enjoy...

J-E-T-S, JETS, JETS, JETS!!!!!

If you did anything on this board other than follow me around Jets/Pats threads in the sports forum, you'd know I've been saying pretty much all year she's a likely winner if she goes in the Classic. I've been highly critical of her campaigns and her competition, not of her ability. Show me the post where I said Rail Trip is better than her. From now on, try only making an ass of yourself in one forum.

Oh, and I'm rooting for the meteor on Monday, but Brandon Marshall is gonna light up that Pop Warner secondary.

After watching today's races, I find it even less likely Z, the big mare, wins the BCC.

Switch could have very easily have won today had she not got dumb late.

I really don't know if she can win it but if she does it will prove conclusively that the synthetic surfaces are a hindrance to her rather than an asset.

i'm not. she will be short. but nebrady is right. only its not a bandwagon when you've won 19 in a row. back to the point of the thread. the article was dumb....what was the purpose? i've been following racing for over 30 years and there have not been many like this horse. that whole rachel vs zenyatta thing was BAD for racing. people are still BITTER. here the game has hardly any big stars and people waste that fighting over who is better. i'm so glad i worry about my bets and put energy into that. they are/were both really, really nice horses(historic). that did things most horses could not even attempt. why trash either one? is it really productive?

The only way Zenyatta loses her next race is if Arguabley runs and I havent seen him, but every body says that "Arguabley is the best race horse on dirt".

Surely, even her most ardent fans would agree that padding stats in the name of keeping "the streak" alive was a whole lot more important to the Zencamp than making history the old fashioned way and leaving no doubts. If you are truly a fan, as I consider myself, I think she was robbed in that sense.

The problem I have with Beyer's article is that his agenda is clear and it takes away from some really good points that he makes. A "curiosity"? Come on.

Zenyatta's detractors should admit that at times they can be just as ridiculous about denigrating the mare's relative merits as her supporters are about pumping them up. There are some big holes in her resume in regards to her being one of the best of all time. AGREED. But a "curiosity" that owes much of her success to polytrack?

As big a fan as I am of her, I tend to agree with this statement. Whether Smith moves too early on her, or one of the other entries step up and run a huge race, I think that the storybook ending doesn't go as planned.
(the Eagle fan coming out in me)

I hate to sound like pg/rht85hrfan, but i REALLY DID have a dream last week that Tessitore or whoever it is that does the post-race commentating on tv was upset about the outcome and was melancholy in his explanation of the stretch-drive replay. Pretty f'kn vivid, and I'll be betting the race accordingly. :o

Who????

What's kind of amusing - is that all of Zenyatta's Beyer figures this year have been unquestionably inflated.

I'm not talking 1 or 2 points - more like 4 to 8. You've got races where everything behind her is running a new lifetime top and thats what it takes to get her to 100.

I've never seen anything like it.

I forgot that " Unquestionably " could come up big also. I haven't seen him run, but I hear that " Unquestionably is the best horse.

Unquestionably and Arguabley are the only one's that Zenyatta has to fear all the rest have to come and get her in the Classic. OOOHHHH on dirt, the only surface that she wins with day light between her rivals.

Beyer's has tried to beat her every way he can and even yesterday he was at Hollywood Park and failed again.

Right and big f*ing deal if he's wrong. It happens.

To be more accurate the entire field in the Santa Margarita ran a new beyer top except for the last place finisher and Switch ran a new top. Other than that no horse she has run against has been given a top lifetime figure.