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SniperSB23 11-04-2008 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
yeah I was WAY too negative.

Need to get that glass half full approach :p

Better smoke some pot.

Antitrust32 11-04-2008 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Better smoke some pot.


That GLASS better have some milk in it for some oreo's than! ;)

GPK 11-04-2008 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
when over 400,000 + people die every year from tobacco related problems, I have a hard time calling tobacco harmless.... I think I should have grouped it with booze.

I would like to hear your explanation about alcohol being a completely different kind of drug... and I'm not being a smart ass, I'd really like to hear it.


You can line 50 people up and give them crack or blow every day for 3 weeks, and chances are all 50 will become addicted. Take another 50 people and give them alcohol everyday for 3 weeks and you might get 2 or 3 alcoholics.

Danzig 11-04-2008 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
I thought Dimmy was a dude, that was totally female logic right there.


:rolleyes:

Danzig 11-04-2008 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
Ann Coulter

i just vomited. a little....

ugh, i can't stand that woman!! yech...

Scav 11-04-2008 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
You can line 50 people up and give them crack or blow every day for 3 weeks, and chances are all 50 will become addicted. Take another 50 people and give them alcohol everyday for 3 weeks and you might get 2 or 3 alcoholics.

Completely agree 100%

GPK 11-04-2008 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
I love you Kev, but you are out of your damn mind if you don't think caffeine is addictive and a drug.

There were times where if I didn't drink a diet coke or pepsi by noon, i would have a SPLITTING headache. Once I drank either, headache went away.

You are right about having opinions and yadda yadda, but there are some here that haven't done drugs of any kind, so how can they have an opinion on it and what it does


Maybe I am just looking at it in a different context than others.

timmgirvan 11-04-2008 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i was asking about your repeated references to taking voters 'to a mosque'.

Ziggy: they rounded them up and took them to get registered to vote. do you think they did that out of the goodness of their heart. They did it for one reason..to have a place that was conducive to having the new voters consider their candidates as the better or more sympathetic choice.

Coach Pants 11-04-2008 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
Hardly..is that your pic in the avatar?

How do you know she's 13? Are you a kid toucher?

Danzig 11-04-2008 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I wrote this so wrong (damn "dope" head). I meant i wish my work would let me see Pant's pics!

you'd have loved the one with the girl wearing strategically placed...maple leaves.

:D

Danzig 11-04-2008 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
Ziggy: they rounded them up and took them to get registered to vote. do you think they did that out of the goodness of their heart. They did it for one reason..to have a place that was conducive to having the new voters consider their candidates as the better or more sympathetic choice.

you still are dodging my question.
what's wrong, btw, with getting people to register to vote? i hounded my daughter about it til she finally registered. so, you're saying because they took potential voters to a mosque, it helped a candidate? how does the setting of a mosque do that?

timmgirvan 11-04-2008 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
How do you know she's 13? Are you a kid toucher?

you're kinda sensitive about your avatar. And no to the rest.

timmgirvan 11-04-2008 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
you still are dodging my question.
what's wrong, btw, with getting people to register to vote? i hounded my daughter about it til she finally registered. so, you're saying because they took potential voters to a mosque, it helped a candidate? how does the setting of a mosque do that?

Pretty much anybody will say that the more new voter registered the more they are Democrat....that's just past history. ACORN has been proven to have acted fraudulently, and they have serious ties to Obama and others as well. Have you not read about the lawsuits involving ACORN?

SniperSB23 11-04-2008 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
You can line 50 people up and give them crack or blow every day for 3 weeks, and chances are all 50 will become addicted. Take another 50 people and give them alcohol everyday for 3 weeks and you might get 2 or 3 alcoholics.

Guess which side cigarettes would fall on?

Antitrust32 11-04-2008 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
You can line 50 people up and give them crack or blow every day for 3 weeks, and chances are all 50 will become addicted. Take another 50 people and give them alcohol everyday for 3 weeks and you might get 2 or 3 alcoholics.

okay I agree with that.. but give another 50 people weed every day for 3 weeks and how many addicts would you get?

I'm not going to ever argue about crack or blow... Its the weed thing I'm arguing.

Antitrust32 11-04-2008 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
you'd have loved the one with the girl wearing strategically placed...maple leaves.

:D

OH man! :(

GPK 11-04-2008 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Guess which side cigarettes would fall on?


You think it falls on the side of everyone becoming addicted?

GPK 11-04-2008 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
okay I agree with that.. but give another 50 people weed every day for 3 weeks and how many addicts would you get?
I'm not going to ever argue about crack or blow... Its the weed thing I'm arguing.



Honestly? I have no idea. Most of the people I know that smoke it are addicted to it.

SniperSB23 11-04-2008 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
You think it falls on the side of everyone becoming addicted?

Yeah, cigarettes are incredibly addictive. There is no single scale that you can judge drugs on, some are more potent, some are more addictive, some are more dangerous, etc. Interestingly though marijuana is on the bottom end of the scale in pretty much every category yet is it lumped in with the hard drugs while alcohol and nicotine are fine.

Antitrust32 11-04-2008 01:36 PM

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You think it falls on the side of everyone becoming addicted?

I'd say 75% addicted

Antitrust32 11-04-2008 01:38 PM

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Honestly? I have no idea. Most of the people I know that smoke it are addicted to it.

People can not become physically addicted to marijuana. Its a habit type thing i guess. Completely different than other drugs including alcohol and tobacco.

timmgirvan 11-04-2008 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
People can not become physically addicted to marijuana. Its a habit type thing i guess. Completely different than other drugs including alcohol and tobacco.

So they can become psychologically addicted to weed? Why are there(apparently) so many long-time users?

GPK 11-04-2008 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Yeah, cigarettes are incredibly addictive. There is no single scale that you can judge drugs on, some are more potent, some are more addictive, some are more dangerous, etc. Interestingly though marijuana is on the bottom end of the scale in pretty much every category yet is it lumped in with the hard drugs while alcohol and nicotine are fine.


I guess I am looking at it strictly as the harm or the potential harm it has towards others, especially when people choose to operate a vehicle on a public road. Kind of narrow minded in that aspect I guess...

GBBob 11-04-2008 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
People can not become physically addicted to marijuana. Its a habit type thing i guess. Completely different than other drugs including alcohol and tobacco.

Are you sure about this?

GPK 11-04-2008 01:43 PM

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Are you sure about this?


I know people that have had to smoke it 3-4 times a day just to get through the day. Sounds physically addictive to me.

GBBob 11-04-2008 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
I know people that have had to smoke it 3-4 times a day just to get through the day. Sounds physically addictive to me.

I just looked it up and there MAY be some physical addiction, but it's generally not considered one.

Now the 'roni pizza after? That's a physical addiction

timmgirvan 11-04-2008 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
I know people that have had to smoke it 3-4 times a day just to get through the day. Sounds physically addictive to me.

THAT's what I'm talking about.....

Danzig 11-04-2008 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
OH man! :(

i know what you're doing as soon as you get home

Scav 11-04-2008 01:46 PM

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People can not become physically addicted to marijuana. Its a habit type thing i guess. Completely different than other drugs including alcohol and tobacco.

You might not want to go down this road. Pot is addictive, but it isn't as quick to become addictive, such as herion and crack.

As in all things in life, moderation is the key to almost everything.

I see no problem with someone pulling a couple bong hits on a Friday night to enhance relaxation with some friends once in a while.

But when it is a part of your daily routine, it is an issue.

SniperSB23 11-04-2008 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
I know people that have had to smoke it 3-4 times a day just to get through the day. Sounds physically addictive to me.

There's nothing in it that causes a physical addiction. Some people can become mentally addicted though where they like the feeling of being high so much that they have cravings to smoke. The rate of that is far lower than for any other drugs out there.

GBBob 11-04-2008 01:47 PM

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Antitrust32 11-04-2008 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
I just looked it up and there MAY be some physical addiction, but it's generally not considered one.

Now the 'roni pizza after? That's a physical addiction

there is a phycological (sp?) addiction but no physical addiction.

Its probably harder to quit coffee than pot.

Definately harded to quit cigs than pot.

Can't even compare quitting alcohol & hard drugs to pot.

timmgirvan 11-04-2008 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Because it feels good being high? Why are there so many long time users of alcohol? Because it feels good having a few drinks.

Scholarly answer there, Tommy Chong!

SniperSB23 11-04-2008 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Because it feels good being high? Why are there so many long time users of alcohol? Because it feels good having a few drinks.

Big difference though. There is no such thing as a recovered alcoholic becoming a social drinker. Once you hit alcoholism if you ever start to drink again, even casually, the addiction comes right back. In the case of pot you could develop a mental addiction to it if you smoke it regularly and quit and then go back later and just smoke casually without that addiction being guaranteed to come back.

Scav 11-04-2008 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob

This looks like a pro-pot website and it isn't. That is hilarious....

timmgirvan 11-04-2008 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
there is a phycological (sp?) addiction but no physical addiction.

Its probably harder to quit coffee than pot.

Definately harded to quit cigs than pot.

Can't even compare quitting alcohol & hard drugs to pot.

And your source would be.....

Danzig 11-04-2008 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
You might not want to go down this road. Pot is addictive, but it isn't as quick to become addictive, such as herion and crack.

As in all things in life, moderation is the key to almost everything.

I see no problem with someone pulling a couple bong hits on a Friday night to enhance relaxation with some friends once in a while.

But when it is a part of your daily routine, it is an issue.

anything that takes over your routine can be bad....i used to start every day with a big old bunch of coffee...i've cut back to wknds only, and generally only drink water during the day.
people are creatures of habit, the habit itself, moreso than what the habit IS, is usually the problem. people don't like change, in many things they do....look at how many say they want to quit smoking, but don't for example...i quit cold turkey, and i don't think i have any special powers. i made the decision to quit and did so. same thing when i decided to lose weight. some just decide they like their habit or are comfortable with it.

GPK 11-04-2008 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
You might not want to go down this road. Pot is addictive, but it isn't as quick to become addictive, such as herion and crack.

As in all things in life, moderation is the key to almost everything.

I see no problem with someone pulling a couple bong hits on a Friday night to enhance relaxation with some friends once in a while.

But when it is a part of your daily routine, it is an issue.


I would also be curious as to how many people that end up doing the "harder drugs" that people talk about, started with pot. I hear many stories of people that started with pot, but felt the need for a "better high."


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