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GPK 06-26-2008 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I am going to start a petition to get KYRIM reinstated if for nothing else to see her and the "new" PG1985 converse


Hell yeah...im all for it. They could share a myspace account and then Coach could really go to town.

SCUDSBROTHER 06-26-2008 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Jenny McCarthy.....

QUEEN of AUTISM AWARENESS

Scav 06-26-2008 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
QUEEN of AUTISM AWARENESS

While it means nothing, when I was down in Carbondale, I lived next to the house that featured her on the roof naked as hell, I heard from some old timers that it was a pretty wild day there, people just sat across the street with kegs and partied hard while Playboy was shooting naked shots of SIU girls.

SCUDSBROTHER 06-26-2008 10:37 PM

Dats 'bout as good as dat Turkeyboy can sing right now.:cool:

Scav 06-26-2008 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Dats 'bout as good as dat Turkeyboy can sing right now.:cool:

LOL

Scav 06-26-2008 10:41 PM

Chuck is right, Bilas hasn't said a bad word yet. I can't believe he liked the Bulls 2nd round pick, I saw that guy play, he wasn't much.....

SCUDSBROTHER 06-26-2008 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Chuck is right, Bilas hasn't said a bad word yet. I can't believe he liked the Bulls 2nd round pick, I saw that guy play, he wasn't much.....


He says that they've got to improve on stuff(like that's gunna happen.)

Cannon Shell 06-26-2008 10:47 PM

I'm going to sleep...Chacka Khan just got drafted

Bilas loves him, naturally...

Scav 06-26-2008 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I'm going to sleep...Chacka Khan just got drafted

Bilas loves him, naturally...

Just continued the pain of the championship game. At least Chamlbers has to sit around alittle while :)

Cannon Shell 06-26-2008 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
He says that they've got to improve on stuff(like that's gunna happen.)

I havent seen such a positive commentator since Irv "The happiest human on earth" Cross was on the NFL Today with Brent Musberger and jimmy The greek

Cannon Shell 06-26-2008 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Just continued the pain of the championship game. At least Chamlbers has to sit around alittle while :)

Hey chalmers just got traded to miami. not a bad deal for him

Scav 06-26-2008 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Hey chalmers just got traded to miami. not a bad deal for him

I have no idea who is where with all these trades. All I know is the Bulls got 1 good player, and another hilarious player, and we still don't have solid forwards.

Tyrus Thomas, greatest pick ever

jcs11204 06-26-2008 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
I have no idea who is where with all these trades. All I know is the Bulls got 1 good player, and another hilarious player, and we still don't have solid forwards.

Tyrus Thomas, greatest pick ever

tyrus is a freak athlete, im not sure about anything else though

Cannon Shell 06-26-2008 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
tyrus is a freak athlete, im not sure about anything else though

You are big on the athletes

SCUDSBROTHER 06-26-2008 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
You are big on the athletes

Dodgers got good athletes........LOL....Oh well.

SCUDSBROTHER 06-26-2008 11:16 PM

I doubt Beasley can add three or four numbers together.

Cannon Shell 06-26-2008 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
I doubt Beasley can add three or four numbers together.

As long as he can sign X he will be fine

Mortimer 06-27-2008 08:27 AM

I hate to repeat from last year...but is their a draft in here?

NTamm1215 06-27-2008 08:29 AM

In terms of trades, the Rockets traded Nicolas Batum to Portland who then sent Darrell Arthur to the Grizzlies with the Rockets getting Donte' Greene, the player they coveted all along and Joey Dorsey, a guy who will seriously help the Rockets front-line.

As a Rockets fan I like the trade a lot. Greene has potential and Dorsey is just a beast. If the Texans are thin at linebacker, they can probably rent Dorsey for a few weeks.

NT

Cannon Shell 06-27-2008 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
In terms of trades, the Rockets traded Nicolas Batum to Portland who then sent Darrell Arthur to the Grizzlies with the Rockets getting Donte' Greene, the player they coveted all along and Joey Dorsey, a guy who will seriously help the Rockets front-line.

As a Rockets fan I like the trade a lot. Greene has potential and Dorsey is just a beast. If the Texans are thin at linebacker, they can probably rent Dorsey for a few weeks.

NT

Dorsey doesnt offer much other than 6 fouls and a monster dunk or two. Skillless player that cant overwhelm NBA players with his strength. Plus Yao, Scola, Landry and Hayes is a pretty good frontcourt already.

Antitrust32 06-27-2008 09:54 AM

Coach Peanut Shell... what do you think about the guy from UF.. the 76ers pick?

pgardn 06-27-2008 12:23 PM

McHale wants Love.

Imagine that.

This kiss of death or we he actually get a kid
that can learn from him. McHale sees the hands,
he sees the feet, he sees the strength, he sees
the basketball IQ, he sees the ability to use both hands.

What he does not see is his own (McHale) outrageous
wing span and timing.

Cannon Shell 06-27-2008 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
Coach Peanut Shell... what do you think about the guy from UF.. the 76ers pick?

I honestly have no idea

Cannon Shell 06-27-2008 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
McHale wants Love.

Imagine that.

This kiss of death or we he actually get a kid
that can learn from him. McHale sees the hands,
he sees the feet, he sees the strength, he sees
the basketball IQ, he sees the ability to use both hands.

What he does not see is his own (McHale) outrageous
wing span and timing.

Kevin usually sees guys who he thinks can play, that cant.

Mortimer 06-27-2008 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I honestly have no idea




thud

pgardn 06-27-2008 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Kevin usually sees guys who he thinks can play, that cant.

That was the kiss of death part
of my rant.

King Glorious 06-28-2008 01:08 AM

Can't see what the pros see in Westbrook at all. I wouldn't take a guy like that in the first round.

Started off the season expecting Love to get exposed. He played much better than I thought he would. I think he's going to have a hard time living up to the hype of being drafted so high but I can see him as a solid NBA player, maybe a 12-7 kinda guy.

I like Bayless a lot. I like Mayo. I love Beasley and Rose.

I like the selection of Jason Thompson by the Kings.

I think the Knicks blew it.....again.

Like the guy the Celtics got, Bill Walker. Adds some athleticsm.

I think Joe Alexander will surprise in Milwaukee and Eric Gordon will not fit with the Clippers.

Love JJ Hickson going to Cleveland. Will help immediately.

Early top three choices for ROY:
Mayo
Alexander
Beasley

If Marion is traded from Miami:
Mayo
Beasley
Alexander

pgardn 06-28-2008 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
Can't see what the pros see in Westbrook at all. I wouldn't take a guy like that in the first round.

Started off the season expecting Love to get exposed. He played much better than I thought he would. I think he's going to have a hard time living up to the hype of being drafted so high but I can see him as a solid NBA player, maybe a 12-7 kinda guy.

I like Bayless a lot. I like Mayo. I love Beasley and Rose.

I like the selection of Jason Thompson by the Kings.

I think the Knicks blew it.....again.

Like the guy the Celtics got, Bill Walker. Adds some athleticsm.

I think Joe Alexander will surprise in Milwaukee and Eric Gordon will not fit with the Clippers.

Love JJ Hickson going to Cleveland. Will help immediately.

Early top three choices for ROY:
Mayo
Alexander
Beasley

If Marion is traded from Miami:
Mayo
Beasley
Alexander

I think this is what Minnesota wants out of Love, a solid player.
There were no Hakeems, Duncans, Ewings, Oden in this draft.
Huge guys who had shown brilliance were lacking.

Last PG taken first was Iverson I believe, I dont know who before that.
This is the sign of a weaker draft. I think Beasley is your rookie of the
year hands down imo. He will be asked to put up numbers immediately.

King Glorious 06-28-2008 01:29 PM

I totally disagree with the thinking that a point guard leading the draft is a sign that it's weak. I think it's a sign of how the rules of the game have changed. Nowdays, having a dominant point guard is HUGE. Look at Steve Nash, Deron Williams, Chris Paul, and Tony Parker. Baron Davis, Dwayne Wade, Gilbert Arenas, Chauncey Billups. All of these are dominant pg's that are adept at scoring as well as setting up their teammates. In my opinion, pg is the most important position on the floor in today's NBA.

Mortimer 06-28-2008 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
I totally disagree with the thinking that a point guard leading the draft is a sign that it's weak. I think it's a sign of how the rules of the game have changed. Nowdays, having a dominant point guard is HUGE. Look at Steve Nash, Deron Williams, Chris Paul, and Tony Parker. Baron Davis, Dwayne Wade, Gilbert Arenas, Chauncey Billups. All of these are dominant pg's that are adept at scoring as well as setting up their teammates. In my opinion, pg is the most important position on the floor in today's NBA.


You forgot LeBron Cousy.

pgardn 06-28-2008 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
I totally disagree with the thinking that a point guard leading the draft is a sign that it's weak. I think it's a sign of how the rules of the game have changed. Nowdays, having a dominant point guard is HUGE. Look at Steve Nash, Deron Williams, Chris Paul, and Tony Parker. Baron Davis, Dwayne Wade, Gilbert Arenas, Chauncey Billups. All of these are dominant pg's that are adept at scoring as well as setting up their teammates. In my opinion, pg is the most important position on the floor in today's NBA.

I agree partially with you about the importance of the position.
However this year's finals disagrees with that stance. Rondo and
(Fisher/Farmar) were hardly on the level the group you mentioned.

And how many of those PG's mentioned were drafted 1st?

Zero.

Problem is it is hard to gauge if you got a star or a dud
because PG is such a difficult position
. OUt of those above
the one with an MVP was drafted where?
No one had
any idea Nash was going to be the player he has been. Same
with Stockton, Parker, Paul, etc... Look at where these guys
were taken. Just because you are drafted #1 as a PG, does not
necessarily translate to success. If Rose does not get a decent
jumper going and be able to knock down a few 3's... it will be very
tough on him. It seemed like a weak draft to me, but we will have to
wait on that.

Hakeem, Duncan, Ewing, Shaq,
those are easy picks. Much clearer what
one is getting.

Mortimer 06-28-2008 06:05 PM

KG vs. PG.




This is great!

King Glorious 06-28-2008 06:11 PM

You don't HAVE to have a dominant PG to have success. The Celtics and Lakers don't. The Cavs don't. I'm not saying that it's a necessity. Just like back in the 90's, when the thinking was that a team needed a dominant center, it was the Bulls winning titles without one.

If the choice was a dominant big man or a dominant small man, I think in today's NBA, you take the small man. Now, if the big man is a franchise center, then that's different. But there were none of those in this draft. The dominant big man is under 6'8" so that made it nearly automatic on who was not only the best option but especially the best option for the team that had the top choice. Let's say that NO or Utah would have ended up with the first selection this year. Then obviously Rose wouldn't have been the first pick. So it was a combination of need and talent that put him there.

Mortimer 06-28-2008 06:16 PM

I'm not sure what they are saying.






But then I don't think they are either.

Mortimer 06-28-2008 07:13 PM

Phil is going to seguey into lane violations...pretending it's part of the discussion.






Let's watch.

Should be fun.

pgardn 06-28-2008 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
You don't HAVE to have a dominant PG to have success. The Celtics and Lakers don't. The Cavs don't. I'm not saying that it's a necessity. Just like back in the 90's, when the thinking was that a team needed a dominant center, it was the Bulls winning titles without one.

If the choice was a dominant big man or a dominant small man, I think in today's NBA, you take the small man. Now, if the big man is a franchise center, then that's different. But there were none of those in this draft. The dominant big man is under 6'8" so that made it nearly automatic on who was not only the best option but especially the best option for the team that had the top choice. Let's say that NO or Utah would have ended up with the first selection this year. Then obviously Rose wouldn't have been the first pick. So it was a combination of need and talent that put him there.

No disagreement whatsoever.
Just think it is more difficult to assess PGs.

jcs11204 06-28-2008 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
No disagreement whatsoever.
Just think it is more difficult to assess PGs.

i think rose has a lot bigger shot at being a bust, then beasley...
i think beasley has a solid career, at worst

jcs11204 06-28-2008 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
I think this is what Minnesota wants out of Love, a solid player.
There were no Hakeems, Duncans, Ewings, Oden in this draft.
Huge guys who had shown brilliance were lacking.

Last PG taken first was Iverson I believe, I dont know who before that.
This is the sign of a weaker draft. I think Beasley is your rookie of the
year hands down imo. He will be asked to put up numbers immediately.

oden is the rookies of the year, im pretty sure he's eligable for the award, if he is, its a lock, he has to be 20-10-3 at the least

King Glorious 06-28-2008 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
oden is the rookies of the year, im pretty sure he's eligable for the award, if he is, its a lock, he has to be 20-10-3 at the least

He's not eligible and there's no way he's a 20-point scorer anyway.

pgardn 06-28-2008 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
He's not eligible and there's no way he's a 20-point scorer anyway.

Unless Portland misses and enormous number of shots.
Oden is a cleanup man. Just like Dwight Howard, but not
as athletic as Dwight.


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