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Gander 01-08-2007 02:30 PM

Didnt Alberran win the Met Mile? Thats a pretty big acomplishment. Grade 1
I think.

philcski 01-08-2007 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Didnt Alberran win the Met Mile? Thats a pretty big acomplishment. Grade 1
I think.

yeah, as well as the Forego G1, the CD Handicap G2, the San Carlos G1, the Tom Fool G2, along with a bunch of 2nds. Wow was he terrible.

Withers 01-08-2007 02:41 PM

Wouldn't it have been nice if they had added a mile and a half on dirt and turf instead of the mile races?

brianwspencer 01-08-2007 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JJP
And he would've found a way to run second. Didn't seem to matter if it was a Grade 1 or a classified allowance, somebody always had to finish in front of him.

wow, i think he's one of the better "sprinters" in recent memory -- maybe not 6f so much, but I'd take him at 7f over just about any horse not named Ghostzapper in the last five years. I hope his progeny run well.

blackthroatedwind 01-08-2007 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Withers
Wouldn't it have been nice if they had added a mile and a half on dirt and turf instead of the mile races?

Anyone?

brianwspencer 01-08-2007 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Withers
Wouldn't it have been nice if they had added a mile and a half on...turf instead of the mile races?


added?

philcski 01-08-2007 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Anyone?

i started typing a reply and stopped. 12F dirt races don't do it for me. thankfully for all of us, that's the aqueduct "feature" on wednesday!

blackthroatedwind 01-08-2007 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
i started typing a reply and stopped. 12F dirt races don't do it for me. thankfully for all of us, that's the aqueduct "feature" on wednesday!


And quite a feature it is.

Perhaps it could be considered a springboard for the BC when the BC commitee comes to their senses, or gets some senses, and cards that much needed 1 1/2 dirt race.

Coyote Lakes will be pissed he missed it.

philcski 01-08-2007 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
And quite a feature it is.

Perhaps it could be considered a springboard for the BC when the BC commitee comes to their senses, or gets some senses, and cards that much needed 1 1/2 dirt race.

Coyote Lakes will be pissed he missed it.

it's a shame a big carryover will be riding on which of these horses has been hopped up on enough CO2 to get a mile and a half.

Sightseek 01-08-2007 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Anyone?

One word for you:

Jazil :D

cmorioles 01-08-2007 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Guy_Smiley
Klassy Briefcase.

The queen of Mid-atlantic 5 panel dashes.
She had to go Across the Pond to find viable competition.

Go Klassy !

And how exactly did that turn out?

pmayjr 01-08-2007 03:00 PM

I swear to god I called it being over 2 days if they were ever gonna add more races. I said that, because they could do it like they do Kentucky Oaks Day. Not as populas as Derby day, but still popular in it's own right.

Filly and Mare Sprint was much needed. Dirt mile maybe... 2 year old Turf Mile? Hmmm... I'm going along with a lot of people's opinions in here that the 2 year ld races should be scrapped all-together. If you wanna argue (and the BC people as well) that it build up hype for the 3 year old campaign, how much hype does it really build up with the jinx of winning the BC Juvy?

AeWingnut 01-08-2007 05:21 PM

I think this thread was only 3 pages long when I started reading it..

They start racing early on BC day and there is 30 minutes between races.
The other 3 races could easily fit in one day. I believe the other 3 races will be 2nd fiddle to the real BC races. I won't take a day off to bet those races on Friday. The handle won't increase enough to justify the extra day.

So people get bored watching 4 hour basbeall games.. that's because there is 15 minutes of excitement packed into every 4 hours of baseball. There's more excitement in 2 minutes of racing than there is in the World Series. The thinkg man's sport (thinking, "is that paint dry yet?") :confused:

TheSpyder 01-08-2007 06:24 PM

I again say this is a chance to show the sport. How many red letter days do we get? If we keep saying we need to bring more fans into the game, then this COULD be one way if done properly.

Yes, the people on this board know the ponies inside and out, but joe public doesn't. On that second day you'll be playing the ponies anyway so suffer through three more races you may not care for and make the most out of it.

It's like going to your inlaws for Christmas, you may not want to be there but heck, it's Christmas.

I say stop bickering, and look at the positive for the sport. Should the disctances be different, the type of race, the time of race...maybe, but it just doesn't matter.

It is what it is, so lets just take our sport out of the closet one more day and shine.

That's my 3 cents worth (extra cent for extra races)

Spyder from SC

Scav 01-08-2007 06:29 PM

After reading the whole thing I have these thoughts. Personally, I can care less about the what races are run on this day, as long as they are competitive and offer value, which, they do. Running them on Friday is a bad idea, and the pools will show it. What gambler has a Friday off of work, especially if it is a payday (non direct deposit)If you are going to have 10 BC races, RUN THEM on a single card, and start the card at 11am CST. What this does is force the track to not have 1023 minutes between races, and have normal 30-40 minutes between. That, in turn, makes people pay more attention thus ratings go up. What is going to happen is that winning a BC race is going to be like winning a wild card in Baseball or football, who cares, have to stop diluting major races.

Danzig 01-08-2007 06:49 PM

i say get rid of the 10f 'classic' and make it 12f!

why is it a juvie filly can run 1 1/16, but an older mare only 1/16 further? and a horse only 3/16 further? why is that acceptable as meaningful, as a real test??

oh, and scav--i love direct deposit.

Sightseek 01-08-2007 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
After reading the whole thing I have these thoughts. Personally, I can care less about the what races are run on this day, as long as they are competitive and offer value, which, they do. Running them on Friday is a bad idea, and the pools will show it. What gambler has a Friday off of work, especially if it is a payday (non direct deposit)If you are going to have 10 BC races, RUN THEM on a single card, and start the card at 11am CST. What this does is force the track to not have 1023 minutes between races, and have normal 30-40 minutes between. That, in turn, makes people pay more attention thus ratings go up. What is going to happen is that winning a BC race is going to be like winning a wild card in Baseball or football, who cares, have to stop diluting major races.

I think the correct question is, which die-hard, WON'T be taking the extra day off? :D

tanner12oz 01-08-2007 07:28 PM

im not a fan of the 2 day format......especially friday saturday......id rather have it saturday sunday.

JJP 01-08-2007 09:26 PM

I don't buy into the fact that Friday is going to hurt the handle. OK, you have almost 10 months to get that one day off. I know I will not be working. Hell, I always take the day before the Breeders Cup off anyways.

Scav 01-08-2007 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JJP
I don't buy into the fact that Friday is going to hurt the handle. OK, you have almost 10 months to get that one day off. I know I will not be working. Hell, I always take the day before the Breeders Cup off anyways.

If I take it off, I am usually broke for that Saturday, so I try and work. To me, it makes no sense to have 7 BC races on one day and 3 on another, have 5 and 5 or all 10 on one day


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