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blackthroatedwind 10-26-2006 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
That is just downright preposterous.


Preposterous arguments on the internet????????

slotdirt 10-26-2006 09:38 AM

Sun King's grand-damsire is half to Ruffian. Nope, he shouldn't be able to go 10 panels. Not at all. What a joke.

eurobounce 10-26-2006 11:49 AM

Oracle--For some reason I really haven't totally dissmissed Flower Alley. I was a bit stunned to see him on the also eligible list. But I have also heard that he has been working well and he looking good. But it is going to be difficult to pull the trigger on him in the Classic. But I would not be surprised to see him run "better" in the Classic than he has run in his last two.

SniperSB23 10-26-2006 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Super Frolic has had a MUCH better year than Flower Alley.

Super Frolic hasn't won a single race and hasn't even run 2nd in a G1 this year. At least Flower Alley has a G3 victory. To me the most pathetic thing was the committee chair saying that Flower Alley had no graded stakes victories this year before someone had to correct him and tell him that the Salvator Mile was a G3. How can you be involved in making that decision and be clueless as to the grading of a race?

I'm surprised that Flower Alley is an also eligible but I like it. It sets the precedent that for inclusion into the BC you will be judged solely on what you accomplished during that year. No coasting in based on prior accomplishments.

blackthroatedwind 10-26-2006 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Super Frolic hasn't won a single race and hasn't even run 2nd in a G1 this year. At least Flower Alley has a G3 victory. To me the most pathetic thing was the committee chair saying that Flower Alley had no graded stakes victories this year before someone had to correct him and tell him that the Salvator Mile was a G3. How can you be involved in making that decision and be clueless as to the grading of a race?

I'm surprised that Flower Alley is an also eligible but I like it. It sets the precedent that for inclusion into the BC you will be judged solely on what you accomplished during that year. No coasting in based on prior accomplishments.

Upon reflection I would have to say I am wrong. First of all, Todd did say it was a moot point for the reasons I stated. But second of all, there are inconsistencies throughout the races that make a strong case for Flower Alley. For example, my beloved Commentator doesn't deserve to be in the Sprint based on his 2006 resume over Areyoutalkintome and how Gatorize is in the body of the Juvenile Filly race over a number of stakes winners is mind boggling.

bellsbendboy 10-26-2006 04:42 PM

Slot I am not debating you, I am trying to teach you. But when you brought up Ruffian, it is now evident, you are failing your mid-terms. Good luck. BBB

slotdirt 10-26-2006 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bellsbendboy
Slot I am not debating you, I am trying to teach you. But when you brought up Ruffian, it is now evident, you are failing your mid-terms. Good luck. BBB

No offense, but if "teaching" includes using breeding to determine the winner of a race such as the Breeders Cup Classic, then I don't really want to learn.


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