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King Glorious 06-22-2011 02:09 PM

Well, that's different. Secretariat is arguably the greatest ever and certainly in that conversation. Even so, after his Preakness, Secretariat's name and Spectacular Bid's name came up often in Smarty talk. Whether it was justified or not is not the point. Even if he wasn't seen as in their class, you can be a superstar without being in their class. There have been a LOT of superstars over the years since 1973 that haven't been thought of like Secretariat was.

Indian Charlie 06-22-2011 02:20 PM

I don't know what to tell you KG. I knew no racing fans personally that thought SJ was a legit superstar caliber horse.

The closest to that I can think of was probably Druggie, and he was no fan.

King Glorious 06-22-2011 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 786194)
I don't know what to tell you KG. I knew no racing fans personally that thought SJ was a legit superstar caliber horse.

The closest to that I can think of was probably Druggie, and he was no fan.

Well, I can't say you're wrong here because I don't know who you knew. Just seemed kind of odd to read considering how he was thought of by a lot of fans and media at the time.

Indian Charlie 06-22-2011 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 786197)
Well, I can't say you're wrong here because I don't know who you knew. Just seemed kind of odd to read considering how he was thought of by a lot of fans and media at the time.

Fortunately, most people don't have what used to commonly be called perspective.

cakes44 06-22-2011 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 786194)
I don't know what to tell you KG. I knew no racing fans personally that thought SJ was a legit superstar caliber horse.

The closest to that I can think of was probably Druggie, and he was no fan.


Yeah, but he (Druggie) profusely proclaimed Street Sense as one of the all-time greats from his BC win to the end of his career.

I think he actually compared Street Sense's KD win to Secretariat's Belmont at one time.

Calzone Lord 06-22-2011 03:43 PM

Also, his hard fought Travers score over the indomitable Grasshopper was surely the stuff of legend.

joeydb 06-22-2011 07:50 PM

The Green Monkey :D

my miss storm cat 09-11-2011 06:06 PM

A lot can change in 2 and a half months!

Ms. de Grace is looking awfully good as is Mr. S. Thirsty.

Who else?

Clip-Clop 09-13-2011 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 782694)
Blind Luck (hoping they continue with her success and get by HDG a few times this year, she loves Churchill)
Shackleford (Sat, Haskell, Travers, JGCG and BCC?)
Twirling Candy (barring any illness, he is top choice)

I no longer think Shackleford has much of a chance...
Hanging my hat on Blind Luck.

my miss storm cat 10-04-2011 09:06 PM

Bumping this incase anyone would like to amend a statement or add one....

A lot has changed.


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