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Cannon Shell 06-08-2010 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerS (Post 655467)
You have made a few personal attacks here. Not sure where they are coming from. I have not engaged in such. And am not engaging in "self pity". Which is it by the way self pity or feeling smarter then everyone else? Make up your mind already.

Seriously can discuss this without the other stuff. Dont see a need for it.

As far as "cash strapped" I am well aware of the reasons for it. That doesnt change my thought on Sunday being a better day then Thursday.

I have been a big NYRA supporter over the years.

They have been held hostage by the politicians and broken promises for years I get it. They were subject to politically motivated witchhunt by Bruno and "Friends of NY Racing". I get that too.

So be careful about what you are assuming my thoughts about NYRA are. The "people like you" comment couldnt be further off base. Why not ask next time instead of assuming? How many times have I prefaced comments about NYRA with cash strapped? Most of my comments on this board have been about NYRA generating a significant amount of handle, and doing so with smaller purses then Monmouth.

Now you are a victim...:wf

Roc525 06-08-2010 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerS (Post 655516)
Your first sentence tells me you dont get it.

Cannot imagine a spokesperson for a company responding like that to a customer in any business. Not like you are being cursed at, called an idiot, whatever.

Where did I say the people at NYRA are not interested in customer thoughts?

Getting so ridiculous now. Where you have to swear an oath of eternal loyalty to NYRA before posting anything which could be considered unfair by thin skinned employees.

Yeah we get it people have piled on and said unfair things over the years. Get over it. Grow up. Not everyone is out to get you.Your customers are going to ask for things you might not like or be able to provide.

i cant even believe having this discussion. Been Pro NYRA for years, put a lot of money through the windows and have had privledge of talking in person with management like Bill Nader.

Finally guess what. The economy is rough. I work in private sector. I work on my day off too. Not ideal situation but you do what you have to do, especially if in a crisis mode.

Yes, you are.

richard 06-08-2010 07:24 PM

BTW is open to the public and represents nyra very well imo .

DJARUM 06-08-2010 08:04 PM

I forgot the question. Oh, no racing on Sunday after the Belmont. Would have liked to have seen it but, I'll be at the windows on Wednesday. Can't wait!!!

Coach Pants 06-08-2010 09:34 PM

Great... another man posing as a battered woman. Welcome to the forum, ma'am.

gales0678 06-09-2010 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Linny (Post 655502)
BTW makes a good point. NYRA cannot just add or sublract racing dates. Any changes made to the calendar approved by the NYS Racing and Wagering Board must be approved by the board. Each of the 3 tracks is expected to race a certain # of dates as per the R & W Board, with weather or other unexpected conditions being the only typical exception. Applying for and getting changes is a process.
As far as the Sunday after the Belmont, I have attended about 25 or so Belmonts. I live about 3 hours away, so it's a hike. I used to stay over and then hit a beach the next day, or shop in the city or see friends. I am pretty hardcore, I watch racing every day. I bet almost every day. In all those years, I think I went to the track the next day 1 or 2 times. Even for me, after a long day the day before starting with the 3 hr drive, I was usually willing to give it a rest for a day and I imagine I am not alone. God rested on the 7th day, can't NYRA rest on the 14th?


can you tell me when nyra has asked for days and the nys racing and wagering board has ever denied days to nyra? isn't it pretty much a rubber stamping , if nyra asks for the days they get'em

gales0678 06-09-2010 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 655110)
Based on what measure? Saratoga is a freaking ghost town the day after Travers.


joey , are you going to tell me that don't make money the sunday after the travers? you don't think steve , et al, vendors want NYRA to be open every sunday during the meet ?

isn't making money the point of the operation?

outside of travers day , my guess is the best days at the spa are the 1st 2 weeks, in genreal after the travers my guess is that those weeks don't do as well as the 1st 2 weeks

gales0678 06-09-2010 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 655434)
Besides the employee situation, I just don't know if they could have the venue ready for racing a card on Sunday. Sunset for Saturday was 8:23, the last race went off at 7:50. I have no idea what time everyone got out of Belmont on Saturday, so the staff could start preparing if there was racing the next day. But I'm guessing they wouldn't be able to start to about 9pm at the minimum. I'm not just talking about the grandstand, but the backyard at Belmont which is huge (and I don't believe it's a lighted area either). It's a giant venue, that probably takes some time to clean, plain and simple.

As far as the bitching and moaning goes, I really believe that if they did race on Sunday and the card wasn't up to some people's speed then there would be posted threads about that around here. I just don't understand what the big deal is about one dark Sunday.


matt the card is the card, 1 stakes /feature race would have been fine......... we live in ny you cannot simply tell me that the facility itself could not have been ready for sunday , to even suggest that is a farce when in the past they have run on that sunday

people want a day off i get it, take mon - wed of this week off , start racing on thursday no?

not everyone can play during the week, some of nyra customers are weekend only players , but that doesn't seem to matter to anyone here besides Homer S. the weekend only players lost out on a card and a potential pick 6 play ....not everyone has a phone account/ not everyone has the internet ....some people work during the week and cannot physically get to the track or an otb location to make a play or they simply don't have the time during the week.

herkhorse 06-09-2010 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678 (Post 655724)
matt the card is the card, 1 stakes /feature race would have been fine......... we live in ny you cannot simply tell me that the facility itself could not have been ready for sunday , to even suggest that is a farce when in the past they have run on that sunday

people want a day off i get it, take mon - wed of this week off , start racing on thursday no?

not everyone can play during the week, some of nyra customers are weekend only players , but that doesn't seem to matter to anyone here besides Homer S. the weekend only players lost out on a card and a potential pick 6 play ....not everyone has a phone account/ not everyone has the internet ....some people work during the week and cannot physically get to the track or an otb location to make a play or they simply don't have the time during the week.

This is insane, anyone who cares will find a way to play today, work or no work.

gales0678 06-09-2010 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse (Post 655727)
This is insane, anyone who cares will find a way to play today, work or no work.


everyone has a different situation , not everyone can make wagers during the week , yes there are phone accounts now and internet accounts , but , there is still a % of people out there that play only on weekends and do not have the ability to place a bet without being on site or at an otb

the die-hards will always get down , the casual fan may not....racing needs the casual fan to succeed as well

herkhorse 06-09-2010 07:20 AM

casual fans don't play the pick six

gales0678 06-09-2010 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse (Post 655733)
casual fans don't play the pick six



the pick 6 is only part of the story , even if there was no c/o , there are even some people that work saturdays too and have off only on sunday


they may only play sunday , it's a small base , i'll give you that , but , they are still customers

Linny 06-09-2010 07:44 AM

There are some people who only have Monday and Tuesday off, should they race every day so those folks are not omitted? For any business to try to accomodate the schedules of every potential client is impossible.

NYRA announced a schedule. They actually added a day to it (Wed) because it made sense to race on the day of the Belmont draw. It was well known ahead of time that they were dark on Sunday. If you really needed to play that day they had 13 carded at a track about 2 hrs away. Or you could stay home and bet Mon from there.

gales0678 06-09-2010 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Linny (Post 655738)
There are some people who only have Monday and Tuesday off, should they race every day so those folks are not omitted? For any business to try to accomodate the schedules of every potential client is impossible.

NYRA announced a schedule. They actually added a day to it (Wed) because it made sense to race on the day of the Belmont draw. It was well known ahead of time that they were dark on Sunday. If you really needed to play that day they had 13 carded at a track about 2 hrs away. Or you could stay home and bet Mon from there.



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Originally Posted by Linny (Post 655738)
There are some people who only have Monday and Tuesday off, should they race every day so those folks are not omitted? For any business to try to accomodate the schedules of every potential client is impossible.

NYRA announced a schedule. They actually added a day to it (Wed) because it made sense to race on the day of the Belmont draw. It was well known ahead of time that they were dark on Sunday. If you really needed to play that day they had 13 carded at a track about 2 hrs away. Or you could stay home and bet Mon from there.

right , the people that could only play on sunday got to play monmouth

monmouth don't put $$$ into nyra's coffers

at the end of the day it's my opinion , i know they can run because they have run in the past , i just dis-agree with managements decision and i am a customer who is entitled to his opinion , and it don't mean i am right and it don't mean i am wrong

but it's an opinion that's all , it's not NYRA bashing as some on here want to portray

saturday was great .....they got it right , they got a lot of other things right , i just disagree with that decision

CSC 06-09-2010 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 655638)
Great... another man posing as a battered woman. Welcome to the forum, ma'am.

I get u, you jab me and I jab you back. It's all good and fun.

However, I don't think making light about battered woman is the most tasteful thing to do on this forum.

Coach Pants 06-09-2010 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 655750)
I get u, you jab me and I jab you back. It's all good and fun.

However, I don't think making light about battered woman is the most tasteful thing to do on this forum.

That's because you're acting like one.


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