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Coach Pants 11-10-2009 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Yes, talking about 2007, medical bills totaling more than 10% of family income can bankrupt you, and it did - for 61% of 2007 bankruptcies. And 78% of those bankrupted people had health insurance, but were bankrupted anyway.

Sorry you think the statistics are useless. So proud of you, though, that you've gone from swearing and cursing at me to simply wishing I would die. I guess that means you're growing up :tro:

Yet those statistics conveniently leave out the fact that the majority of them lost health coverage because they couldn't pay their premiums after they realized, "Hmm maybe I should read the summary of benefits and plan for out of pocket expenses." Which, of course, most of them didn't do.

Personal responsibility be damned. The government will take care of these irresponsible dolts now.

And yeah I really wish you would just stop posting. Basically because you're a dishonest c.unt. I don't care how you stop posting.

Coach Pants 11-10-2009 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I dont want you to die or even get a cough. and i know your post wasnt directed to me.

But, before I die, I just want to hear (or see) you say (or type)

"My name is Riot, and I am a full blooded liberal."

please please please?

She's not going to.

Riot 11-10-2009 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
And yeah I really wish you would just stop posting. Basically because you're a dishonest c.unt. I don't care how you stop posting.

Hey, I have a bet with someone ... was that you at Keeneland, coming around Kickin' N' Screamin' as she was being saddled, then running off when we said hello and waved to you?

SOREHOOF 11-10-2009 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu
Driving a car and driving a penis are alot diffirent , wouldnt you say ?
Sometimes you lose control of your car thru no one's fault , can that be said about a penis?

Ever hear of alcohol? ( talking about a penis not a car)

Coach Pants 11-10-2009 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Hey, I have a bet with someone ... was that you at Keeneland, coming around Kickin' N' Screamin' as she was being saddled, then running off when we said hello and waved to you?

I don't know. Were you two the ones with clown shoes on?

WTF? Wow.

SOREHOOF 11-10-2009 04:29 PM

Seriously, where in the Constitution does it give the Federal Govt. the right to force someone to buy something? How can they force someone who doesn't want, or can't afford, health insurance to buy it?

Coach Pants 11-10-2009 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF
Seriously, where in the Constitution does it give the Federal Govt. the right to force someone to buy something? How can they force someone who doesn't want, or can't afford, health insurance to buy it?

Because they have to look busy or else the public will realize they are the reason why all of the manufacturing jobs are gone.

Add that to the fact that most of these people settled for a drastic pay cut and refused to change their spending habits. ex. Save for emergencies or keep cable. Well I can't go without muh Oprah channel and Lifetime movie of the week! I'll just say f.uck saving money.

SOREHOOF 11-10-2009 04:42 PM

The country is going bankrupt so they spend more money. If you find yourself in a hole you are supposed to stop digging, not call in a backhoe.

Riot 11-10-2009 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I dont want you to die or even get a cough. and i know your post wasnt directed to me.

But, before I die, I just want to hear (or see) you say (or type)

"My name is Riot, and I am a full blooded liberal."

please please please?

Psst .... "they" are called "progressives" now ;)

If you think that that vocal, ultra-right, ultra-conservative aspect of the GOP is the majority of the party, or defines the party historically, that would be sadly mistaken. Those folks have only been recently let out of the secret GOP basement, emboldened by the eight years of George II, and in a desperate last-ditch attempt to keep power in Washington. They don't even constitute the majority of what's left of the GOP. As was sadly demonstrated in last weeks NY Congressional race.

Riot 11-10-2009 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
I don't know. Were you two the ones with clown shoes on?

WTF? Wow.

C'mon, don't make me feel sorry for you.

Coach Pants 11-10-2009 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
C'mon, don't make me feel sorry for you.

How much would you like to wager?

Riot 11-10-2009 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
How much would you like to wager?

I already have a wager that says it wasn't you, thanks.

Coach Pants 11-10-2009 05:10 PM

Good. I'm black so I would stand out at Keeneland.

Antitrust32 11-10-2009 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Good. I'm black so I would stand out at Keeneland.

lol & I am a straight, asian man.

Danzig 11-10-2009 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I think there happens to be a difference between planning (or not even planning) to have a baby and actually having the child and caring for the child than being reckless and having unprotected sex and then having taxpayers pay for your unborn to be vaccuumed out into a trash bag.

But hey, thats just my opinion.


but if you only want to talk about the cost, it's far cheaper to pay for one abortion than prenatal care, child care, etc til he/she turns 18.

Antitrust32 11-10-2009 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
but if you only want to talk about the cost, it's far cheaper to pay for one abortion than prenatal care, child care, etc til he/she turns 18.


true.. we should just end reproduction and man kind :D

Danzig 11-10-2009 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Geesh ... did I need to use the :rolleyes: ???


i guess you did!! :p

Coach Pants 11-10-2009 05:20 PM

Seriously I am.


Danzig 11-10-2009 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF
Seriously, where in the Constitution does it give the Federal Govt. the right to force someone to buy something? How can they force someone who doesn't want, or can't afford, health insurance to buy it?



you can't force them, which is a problem. because then when the yahoo decides too many other things are more necessary than insurance, and they have to go to the doctor, suddenly it becomes our problem. they want what they decided they couldn't pay for, but someone has to pay for it.

brianwspencer 11-10-2009 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I think there happens to be a difference between planning (or not even planning) to have a baby and actually having the child and caring for the child than being reckless and having unprotected sex and then having taxpayers pay for your unborn to be vaccuumed out into a trash bag.

But hey, thats just my opinion.

Ok, so you're for litmus tests then to determine how someone got pregnant?

People who wind up having abortions are not always running around "being reckless and having unprotected sex," even though that's a convenient way to pretend things are to make that point.

The whole thing is that whether it's you, Honu, or whoever else, you guys want to increase the difficulty and cost of getting an abortion, an entirely legal medical procedure, because you see every elective abortion as the result of some tramp choosing to be reckless.

I say you cutting off your finger is reckless, but you don't see me trying to write your sawed off finger out of healthcare and making you buy a separate rider in case you f*ck up sometime down the road. I also think having 18, or 20 or however many kids clown car Duggar has is reckless too, but then again, I'm not trying to outlaw it or make it so that the majority of healthcare plans are legally not even able to cover her care in their general plan.

Hate abortion and don't want it done? Outlaw it.

Until then, it's a legal medical procedure, and this amendment (which thank God, doesn't look like it is going to stay in if today's news is any indication) goes much further than the current laws on the books, and to offer that one elective medical procedure that's the result of sex shouldn't be covered while everything elective should be covered if the people meant to or want to have a baby is total BS.


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