thanks

just HRTV I guess

sore knee

Collected a $200,000 check. Sure doesn't seem like a waste of time to me.

Oh you got me there. :rolleyes:

Do you still feel the same way? He's now G1-placed on dirt and got $200,000 for the run. Was it still a waste of time?

Have to say... Having Curlin to watch is a treat.

So what's the deal with his situation in NY? Can he not run in the Whitney or Woodward?

I really don't care. What do you want me to say? Is the brinks truck on the way to your house right now because of this race?

:rolleyes: You made a huge deal about how moronic it was to run the horse, then after he runs second, you say you really don't care. You weren't the only one, but I'm pretty sure had he run like ****, you'd be beating your chest.

I thought the whole purpose of any competitive sport was to actually win...I guess I was wrong. Yay. He picked up a check.

OK. So by that mindset, no one should've entered except Curlin.

Yes and by that mindset lets completely forget that this is one of the top turf horses in the country and there are much better opportunities for him on grass with a much better payday then what he recieved today.

I just don't see how running for second does anything to improve his chances this fall.

I actually like Einstein's connections running him today...get's a 200 grand paycheck in a still early season plus he gets more black type grade 1 dirt for future breeding. Can't hurt.

Pants,

I think you're off base on this. This enhances Einstein reputation, as Ron said above, in the breeding shed. A prestigous Gr. I placement versus the reigning Horse of the Year. Plus, where exactly is there more money to be made right now in this start that he was ready for? You realize the Manhattan purse was $400,000? So a win there is $240,000 back and the placement here is $200,000. But the Gr. I dirt placement means more than another Gr. I grass win for him.. Plus they saved the ship...

Of course I'm off base. It's not the sport and the horrible direction it's in.

I don't know how these people with ridiculous money not realize they're buying a baby, in part, to a fraudulent second place finish in the Stephen Foster. Hell, they probably won't know who was in the field outside of Curlin.

Gamblers and fans of horse racing, not horse ******* come last again. Why even bother.

More dough for the fen phen plaintiffs

I mostly agree with you CP.

As far as this race meaning more value for breeding, I totally agree.

Einstein beat Barcola and some allowance horses. Doesn't matter what the race is named or the horse that romped away to win. Einstein never competed with Curlin in this race. Einstein is debatably a contender in the turf division, and this was a bit of a risky placement, if the goal is champion turf horse.

If you wanted to make a longshot case for Einstein running here, you could say he is a sound horse, and that running on the dirt could put some speed into him.

Even when the logic is against it, it is hard to root against Einstein/Pitts.

I like how everyone makes a big deal about the quality of fields before the race, but then dismiss it as soon as the race is run in order to diminish the accomplishments of the winners/top three. Yeah - Brass Hat, Delightful Kiss, Grasshopper - I haven't ever heard of them before. Where'd they just ship in from, a Maiden Claimer at Ruidoso Downs?

I just watched real time and the replay from the OTB and thought Leparoux did a lousy job and then a great job on Einstein all in the same race.

Got him hit, wedged and blocked into the back stretch, then made a shrewd decision to save ground and keep grinding away behind the 'tank-like' Curlin, and hoping for the best.

Turns out he got it.

Curlin with his 128 pounds was just a real nice example of class and caliber still being able to grind and gut for a win.