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jaripeo 04-20-2008 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Why wait a year

Im sure that the next time he wins, most of one todays critics, will be given excuses and talking about how great this horse is.

The Bid 04-20-2008 10:42 AM

Hes not a good horse.

JJP 04-20-2008 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF
If he won impressively yesterday he may have been relatively short odds in the derby too.

If he won by 5 he'd still be a big question mark because the Lexington was run on Polytrack, which in no way resembles real dirt. Until Churchill switches to synthetic, unproven dirt horses who win these Kee preps (i.e. Momba and Pletcher's horse who won the Lexington; I can't even remember his name) must be downgraded.

Riot 04-20-2008 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Hes not a good horse.

Yeah, I think he was ready, and fired, and we pretty much saw his best.

SOREHOOF 04-20-2008 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JJP
If he won by 5 he'd still be a big question mark because the Lexington was run on Polytrack, which in no way resembles real dirt. Until Churchill switches to synthetic, unproven dirt horses who win these Kee preps (i.e. Momba and Pletcher's horse who won the Lexington; I can't even remember his name) must be downgraded.

I didn't say he deserved to be! Someone out there is going to actually bet on Cowboy Cal too! Monba did win a race on Churchill dirt.

Danzig 04-20-2008 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JJP
If he won by 5 he'd still be a big question mark because the Lexington was run on Polytrack, which in no way resembles real dirt. Until Churchill switches to synthetic, unproven dirt horses who win these Kee preps (i.e. Momba and Pletcher's horse who won the Lexington; I can't even remember his name) must be downgraded.

bite your tongue!

Cajungator26 04-20-2008 11:00 PM

I find it funny that Pyro gets a pass for running like shiat on polytrack, but this horse doesn't.

hockey2315 04-20-2008 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
I find it funny that Pyro gets a pass for running like shiat on polytrack, but this horse doesn't.

Pyro ran better beforehand. . .

Cajungator26 04-20-2008 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315
Pyro ran better beforehand. . .

While I don't care for Tomcito, I would still give him a pass on the polycrap. I agree with Steve too in that 8.5 furlongs just isn't long enough for this horse.

IrishofNDMan 04-20-2008 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315
Pyro ran better beforehand. . .

exactly, Pyro proved that he can race at the top level in America, Tomcito has not and yet still gets the hype.

IrishofNDMan 04-20-2008 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
While I don't care for Tomcito, I would still give him a pass on the polycrap. I agree with Steve too in that 8.5 furlongs just isn't long enough for this horse.

I know what your saying, I don't agree with the Tomcito hype but like you said, the poly is garbage so who knows.

Cajungator26 04-20-2008 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan
exactly, Pyro proved that he can race at the top level in America, Tomcito has not and yet still gets the hype.

What hype? :confused:

I see quite the opposite, actually.

The Indomitable DrugS 04-20-2008 11:11 PM

Ceaser is the one man hype machine

IrishofNDMan 04-20-2008 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
What hype? :confused:

I see quite the opposite, actually.

I don't mean hype on here, but there obviously was Tomcito hype for him to somehow be bet down to favortism.

Cajungator26 04-20-2008 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan
I don't mean hype on here, but there obviously was Tomcito hype for him to somehow be bet down to favortism.

I didn't bet the race (the poly gets me every time :mad: ), but I liked Racecar Rhapsody. I thought RR ran a fantastic race ... too bad he didn't have a bit more ground.

Coach Pants 04-21-2008 06:23 AM

Give Cajun a pass for impersonating the majority of this forum!!

philcski 04-21-2008 07:00 AM

Although it was pure insanity that he was bet to favoritism, he did actually run his race- beaten 4 lengths, so he ran about a 90 Beyer which is what I got for him for the Fl Derby. He kind of reminds me of a slower version of Jazil.

Cajungator26 04-21-2008 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
:rolleyes:

You should be banned for a week for trying to compare the two.

Both ran like donkeys on the poly, what can I say? :D


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