Watch when a horse eats.
They grab with the big rubbery lips
and they pull. Sometimes just grass tears off.
But some of the time some of the grass with roots
also comes up. All kinds of crud hang on the roots.

Horses take in all sorts of crud.
And they colic more often when supplemented
with the very high calorie stuff, too much grain and
sweet crap.

Last bet. BC Turf.
No actually last bet I lost to C. Simon.

But spring nears. And my ears prick.
Why? Do I need to be more addicted
because I wait for warm weather and more
tracks I am familiar with and a betting public that
bets more for fun.

Bad move? Holding off in the winter?

I really take you about as seriously as you take me.

I will take note that not betting in the winter, is not betting often.
I must be a year around gambler to understand wagering.
Arlington Jim basically said the same thing about betting
surfaces.
Guess he does
not wager in the Winter either.

Thanks for your stellar insight as always.
Even though neither of us care.
Yours
Peegarden.

yeah, no doubt the lungs would be a larger concern when actually racing-my part about ingestion was in regard to pg talking about swallowing dirt.
hopefully they won't find any health issues down the road due to the track--of course all that smog in cali hasn't hurt them, so maybe they're pretty resilient!!

Oh they will find something in time. These morons didnt have the sense to test any of this **** prior to installation. We just decided to wing it, good idea. Idiots

Since you mentioned cribbing Z.
I figured out a really neat thing
that works down here in the barn
my wife has her horse.

If you do own a horse, or ever own one
I got something that really works well
that would probably work all year in warmer
weather areas. On Rubber, wood, whatever.

Air Quality Index

Dallas Texas 30AQI

New York, N.Y. 45AQI

L.A. California 31AQI

Little Rock, Arkansas 'Well I can tell you it's real clear today so I guess the # would be 15, yes today is the 15th.

The air in L.A. is better than you think.

Please convince my wife.
I got a friggin track in my hometown
It is really a great simulcasting facility
and I get race replays all the time.
Any time you want to come and watch
races with me... (I realize only on your deathbed
would you ever stoop so low)

So we will be honest. I think I bet too much.

And as far as interest in a lot of things, I am.
I mean if you really dont believe I dont know
what I am talking about all you got to do is
ask questions and reveal how much I dont know.

So I happen to mention cribbing. My wife was getting
pissed at her horse chewing and breathing in excess
air on the stall on the time. So just ask... I wont chime
in if its not something I know nothing about.

I have never chimed in on the Buffy movies. Never on
the Sopranos. Never on hockey. Ask a lot of questions
about golf from kev because I find it impossible to play.
Horses. I read a heck of a lot from this site and others
and I got a damn track and know some jocks who are
no longer present and a trainer that has moved on. I know
vets and my wife owns a damn horse. So yes I am in to a lot
of stuff that happen to include horses. (Which I have a terrible
memory for with names)

But I often throw out statements in order to get reactions (often too provocative and I apologize)
to gauge if I can learn something. So since this thread was
about the track at Santa Anita. I ask you: What is in the
kickback that is so harsh at Santa Anita. I think I know what it
is. What do you think?

I think its probably a little bit of the limestone that lies over the base. That means its in really bad shape if its little rocks like Rupert said. And I think The Bid is probably right that they moved too soon without proper testing.

And it is sad because I like watching the race replays from that track. And I liked betting the track with the full fields last summer/Fall. It was fun laying a bet a and coming back home and watching on the computer. Did not fair so well there though. Practice.

Then it's a good thing that's not what I said.

Perhaps, before you make any more painfully ironic comments about "beyond stupidity", you should re-read that post, very s-l-o-w-l-y.

i got quite a kick out of that post last nite, mr vet (!!!), and thought you would as well....

you mail your license in yet???:D

There is no longer a limestone base , it was taken out when the drainage system was installed , some of the rocks came with the sand , which is coarser than what had first been installed.
The little rocks that are coming up I do believe are coming from the macadam base that was scruffed up when they took the track up and pressure washed it.
I was out there yesterday with about 40 other people picking thru the track for rocks , I only found about 10 , 2 were good sized and sharp and the rest were from the macadam so they were fairly small, nonetheless still would hurt like a bugger to get hit with them.
The sand is most likely what is causing the sting , its pretty coarse and I imagine it feels about like winterized tracks do back east.

Yes, that was in reference to horses swallowing the material, getting it into their stomach and intestines (see Zig's post on sand colic concerns).

What worries me is what Honu said about this morning (confirming what Bid said here days before - yes Bid, you were RIGHT <g>) - and what is described in a Blood-Horse article dated today: if they are finding pieces of asphalt, that means it's coming from the macadam top of the base - and if the base is breaking up (not level) - that's a big concern if horses can get down through the cushion.

Now, the deep synthetic cushion isn't supposed to allow that to ever happen (like dirt when it gets muddy - it's suspected by some that George Washington may have gone down through the cushion and hit the base at Monmouth, causing his injury).

We'll see.

I wonder if Cushion Track, Inc. has written a check to SA yet, to cover all this, the lost racing days, the Pro-Ride consult, the UC engineering lab consult, etc? No matter how well the other Cushion installation is working in CA (and it appears to have no problems), I don't see how the company is going to overcome the PR from this disaster of an installation, and more importantly, their failure to be able to fix it.

just read an update on bloodhorse.

santa anita will close for a few days to install the binding agent, but they aren't sure yet when. they don't know yet how long it will take to produce enough of the binding material for the track. but once that's settled, they will close for about ten days to install.
i hope it works, and that weather is favorable until then.

Thats not good.

Horse getting a sharp rock in
the face, jockeys getting pelted.

The rocks came with the sand?