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Cannon Shell 07-07-2007 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sumitas
The article does state the venom is not effective after 4 hours so that brings in the detention barn as part of the solution.

I dont believe this is correct

The Bid 07-07-2007 04:49 PM

I wonder how they determine how long Venom is effective. How long can you survive after being bit by a King Cobra?

Danzig 07-07-2007 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
Preventing venom use 'difficult'
By MATT HEGARTY
LEXINGTON, Ky. - Facts about cobra venom that many people in horse racing probably do not know: It's easy for a veterinarian to obtain. It's legal to possess. There is very little hope of devising a test to detect its administration any time soon.....

http://www.drf.com/news/article/86497.html
Link to DRF article...


FOLKS.. Please do not lift articles.. LINK THEM..

sorry...it was in the 'free' part...

The Bid 07-07-2007 06:51 PM

DRF supposed to be adding a new equipment change for Biancone, first time Cobra Venom. Labled (KC) King Cobra

letswastemoney 07-07-2007 09:50 PM

Apparently he didn't inform anyone Lady of Venice would be using lasix :eek:

http://msn.foxsports.com/horseracing/story/7000888

Danzig 07-07-2007 09:55 PM

showing himself to be a true pro.:rolleyes:

Riot 07-07-2007 10:44 PM

"Chemical denervation" by undetectable substances isn't uncommon in the horse world, unfortunately. Anything for the win for some folks. Venom has been used to inject sore hocks in performance horses, to deaden high tails on western pleasure horses, to temporarily chemically "nerve" navicular hunters, etc.

Regarding injecting sore hock joints, I think any anesthetic effect is more than overweighed by cobra venom containing hyaluronidase, which cleaves beta 1,4-glycosidic linkages. Seeing that those linkages are a structural component of the articular cartilage in my horses' joints, I don't want them cleaved (damaged).

There was also a research study regarding crushed sciatic nerve damage in cats, indicating that injecting cobra venom intramuscularly into the cats injured leg reduces the degeneration of nerve fibers and enhances peripheral nerve regeneration and functional recovery from the induced nerve injury initially, but repeated use ended the conductive ability of the nerves. Which equals permanent paralysis.

The only reason for using this particular substance, versus anything else known to be pharmacologically efficacious for the purpose at hand, is to avoid detection of a prohibited substance while enabling the horse to compete. To cheat. There is zero therapeutic advantage to it's use.

fpsoxfan 07-07-2007 10:48 PM

Instead of FTL...First time lasix

FTV: First Time Venom

Oh Phuc It


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