Dominican had to alter course, but SS problems was 4 fold....

1) Lugged in at the top of the stretch
2) Didnt switch to his right lead
3) Teuf came out
4) Once SS switched to his right lead, he switched back to his left after Teuf came out.

In addition, they raced over Poly which is a surface that Dominican loves and SS doesnt really care for.

I added to my last post with an edit...

sorry

Agreed on all points except I think the source of three of those problems can be blamed on the horse.

1) his fault
2) his fault
3) not his fault
4) ehhh...push

The champion or best horse in the race should get clear and mow them down. Maybe it was jockey error and Borel should have swung him wide where he could let down and get in full cry. I don't know. I'm not backing him though.

I see all your points and I am making concessions for my choice as well. I don't wish SS or Nafzger any ill-will and would be thrilled for them to win. Just don't like what I see.

I agree with you 100% that the horse doesnt switch leads and causes some of his own problems. This is my only knock on the horse. I like both SS and Quay. However, I am structuring my ticket around Quay in 2nd and 3rd.

Yes, I would, by a neck, nose, length etc....2 preps as a 3, same as AGS but I like the extra week, 2 wins by storming the rail which I don't think anyone will let it happen again and I don't feel he can be pushed 5+ wide and win with other talented colts in this field. He is one of the best in the field, and I will play him underneath, it just seems like I am being forced to love him and key him when I don't and probably won't.

going by what street sense has done, both last year and this....didn't he run on poly just before the bc juvie? didn't win the poly race, but of course trounced the field at churchill......those who ignore history and all that.

as for him being outrun a few weeks ago--i don't think a headbob either way means a horse out ran, or was out run by, another horse. also, did street sense give weight to dominican? or was it level weights for all?

and speaking of street sense, this from drf:

Street Sense sharp once again
By MIKE WELSCH
LOUISVILLE, Ky. - Street Sense may have stamped himself the favorite for the 2007 Kentucky Derby by turning in another eye-catching work on Tuesday morning.

With regular rider Calvin Borel aboard, Street Sense worked five furlongs in 1:00.68 seconds, according to Daily Racing Form, coming home his final quarter-mile in 22.82 seconds. He galloped out six furlongs in 1:13.04 over a fast track.

Cobalt Blue was scheduled to "open gallop" over the track on Tuesday. according to his trainer Doug O’Neill, but was full of run and was timed going seven furlongs from the three-eighths pole to the half-mile pole in 1:26.17 by Daily Racing Form. O’Neill said afterwards that he would confer with the horse’s owner, Merv Griffin, later today before making a final decision on whether to enter Cobalt Blue in the Derby.

Entries for the 2007 Kentucky Derby will be taken on Wednesday.


-------and judging by cobalts gallop, i bet he enters.

I've decided this is a very clever ploy by Moodwalker to get the odds on Street Sense up on Saturday.

You didn't have to respond as I was replying to Cajun...but thanks for your input. You are right, nobody is forcing me to play SS...as I have said, I will play him, underneath on my own. For a period of time discussion it was not, it was like many have done before...stand the boy up and tie him to the whipping post and start lashing. I am not in the majority here, as I remember, I believe only 3 of us argued against SS. Should I change my opinion of SS, Nafzger, or the Bluegrass? Maybe. Will I? When the posts come out possibly I will. We 3 who stated our claims against haven't swayed any opinions, nor have any of those for swayed mine. As for the other site, they all know what goes on here and you all know what goes on there, I'm not getting into a pissing match when the common goal is the same...HORSERACING!!! I've said all I can say on this, thank you for everyones input.

SS had another very nice workout at CD. This horse loves Churchill. I wouldn't be tossing him. I really like him. As of right now, he is my front runner to win the thing.

Street Sense
Your Comment:

Date: May 1, 2007
Track: CHURCHILL DOWNS
Distance: Five Furlongs
Time: 1.01:00 Breezing
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 3/15

That is slander and I suggest you maybe just say that "you don't choose to listen to moodwalker" in the future.

Uh oh. Don't make me go over there and read. :(

I wasn't trying to lash out at anyone... just didn't agree on what he was saying about Street Sense. Heavens... opinions are like assholes... everyone has one.

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Got tore up pretty bad "next door", they ganged up on me, now I got a broken arm, sprained fingers from typing trying to defend myself...might go back for more manana.

What do ya think Moodwalker, did they convince you to play Street Sense yet?

My exact post...no need to get Blocky all excited, Cajun.:D

I do have a broken arm which I didn't say you did, my fingers do hurt from typing with one hand defending my opinions which I, you and everyone is entitled. I am of the opinion that I was in the minority and felt that I was ganged up on. Minority is a fact...ganged up on is an opinion...remember this is a message board, I'm allowed to have one as are you.

Now, I have supported this board over there if you bothered to read any more of my posts or whoever is the real tattler here(freakin' grade school)read any. I have especially supported the proud owners of SumWon and DeeTee stables who have been mocked repeatedly. I also have stuck up for that site and a few of its members a few weeks back,
because I felt they brought valid points and were found out & trashed.

BOTTOM LINE

There is great info at both sites about horseracing, am I right? There is great "discussions" at both as well. Why can't we just leave it at that?

That was my original viewpoint as well. When a few of the members over there started some unnecessary stuff, I just chose not to post anymore. It didn't make sense. BTW... I didn't care for Street Sense either. That is until I saw him in Tampa Bay. The colt just might be that good, but maybe not. I'm not forcing you to use him on your tickets... it's your perogative. Well hell... I wish more people would leave him off. His odds would go up! :D

Thanks, those comments that were made were in bad taste and definitely uncalled for, it's unfortunate that they made them to you.

I think SS is good, very good compared to many in the field, if he wins I'll probably lose...that's gambling. Good luck to all.

That's your opinion...This was mine...Now let us give the thread back to Street Sense and all have a nice day. Agreed?