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Coach Pants 04-13-2007 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Not to mention there are like 3 computers in the whole joint on the main floor. :mad:

Yeah and 20 deep in each line with at least 10 jackasses that don't know how to use the new machines.

Coach Pants 04-13-2007 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
its going to take alot more then him to go 1:08, and his latest work was slow, and now curin is saying they want to teach him to rate.

there is speed but there is no sprinter speed like last year w/ keyed entry and sinister minister.

Yeah good luck getting that horse to rate. I expect he'll be flying on the lead.

SniperSB23 04-13-2007 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
1:08 ? are you crazy ? your guessing that based on what ? I dont mean to sound rude or anything but 1:08, i look at the race and i dont see much pace, where do you see it that hot of fractions coming from ?

I gotta agree, this is nowhere near as loaded with speed as the Spanish Chestnut Derby and that one went in 1:09 2/5ths which is a torrid pace for a 10 furlong race. No way they go faster than that this year. I'm guessing 1:10 flat which will be enough to cook all the horses on the front end.

POINTGIVEN1985 04-13-2007 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
Yeah good luck getting that horse to rate. I expect he'll be flying on the lead.

i see what your saying, but i dont think anyone will respect him to go the distance, especially off of his last race, i will predict the pace is 23/47/1.10

Scav 04-13-2007 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
1:08 ? are you crazy ? your guessing that based on what ? I dont mean to sound rude or anything but 1:08, i look at the race and i dont see much pace, where do you see it that hot of fractions coming from ?

2006 - 1:10 and 2
2005 - 1:09 and 3
2004 - 1:11 and 4 Slop
2003 - 1:10 and 2
2002 - 1:11 and 4

Ok, so 1:08 is a little low but it will go 1:09

Pigtown Cat
hard Spun
Liquidity
Nobiz
Stormello - Currin is full of crap, he is going to the f'n lead
Teufleburg


That is just from the Future PP's

Stormello alone will go 1:09 if he is in there, nobiz is going to be a nut case and pigtown is gunning, and if DEADLY dealer goes, it will be the same situation as pletchers other rat that I can't think of his name

POINTGIVEN1985 04-13-2007 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
I gotta agree, this is nowhere near as loaded with speed as the Spanish Chestnut Derby and that one went in 1:09 2/5ths which is a torrid pace for a 10 furlong race. No way they go faster than that this year. I'm guessing 1:10 flat which will be enough to cook all the horses on the front end.

thats what im trying to say

Coach Pants 04-13-2007 09:35 PM

Yeah Teuflesberg will screw the race up real good. Expect that goofball to go a low 1:09 if he gets in.

POINTGIVEN1985 04-13-2007 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
2006 - 1:10 and 2
2005 - 1:09 and 3
2004 - 1:11 and 4 Slop
2003 - 1:10 and 2
2002 - 1:11 and 4

Ok, so 1:08 is a little low but it will go 1:09

Pigtown Cat
hard Spun
Liquidity
Nobiz
Stormello - Currin is full of crap, he is going to the f'n lead
Teufleburg


That is just from the Future PP's

Stormello alone will go 1:09 if he is in there, nobiz is going to be a nut case and pigtown is gunning, and if DEADLY dealer goes, it will be the same situation as pletchers other rat that I can't think of his name

lol pigtown cat....

i dont know man, if you think so, im thinking 1.10

SniperSB23 04-13-2007 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
2006 - 1:10 and 2
2005 - 1:09 and 3
2004 - 1:11 and 4 Slop
2003 - 1:10 and 2
2002 - 1:11 and 4

Ok, so 1:08 is a little low but it will go 1:09

Pigtown Cat
hard Spun
Liquidity
Nobiz
Stormello - Currin is full of crap, he is going to the f'n lead
Teufleburg


That is just from the Future PP's

Stormello alone will go 1:09 if he is in there, nobiz is going to be a nut case and pigtown is gunning, and if DEADLY dealer goes, it will be the same situation as pletchers other rat that I can't think of his name

Pigtown Cat couldn't run a 1:08 if you literally lit a fire under his ass.

Cajungator26 04-13-2007 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
Don't kid yourself....the person known as "eurobounce" still posts here, but under a new name.

Well tell him to come out from under his rock and give us the psychic's winner! LOL

Scav 04-13-2007 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
what is your problem ?

Any given saturday did not progress in the wood, how did he progess ? you said your look for horses to progress, i just asked you a question, and you respond this way ?

READ my response, he is PROGRESSING in Thorograph terms. His last race in the wood was better then it looked, he ran about 10 furlongs if you figure in ground loss

miraja2 04-13-2007 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
its going to take alot more then him to go 1:08, and his latest work was slow, and now curin is saying they want to teach him to rate.

there is speed but there is no sprinter speed like last year w/ keyed entry and sinister minister.

Oh Christ!
You said YESTERDAY that you thought Stormello would turn in a "keyed entry like performance" in this year's Derby. Now you seem to be saying the opposite. You are the most frustrating poster I have ever encountered!!!

Cajungator26 04-13-2007 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
2006 - 1:10 and 2
2005 - 1:09 and 3
2004 - 1:11 and 4 Slop
2003 - 1:10 and 2
2002 - 1:11 and 4

Ok, so 1:08 is a little low but it will go 1:09

Pigtown Cat
hard Spun
Liquidity
Nobiz
Stormello - Currin is full of crap, he is going to the f'n lead
Teufleburg


That is just from the Future PP's

Stormello alone will go 1:09 if he is in there, nobiz is going to be a nut case and pigtown is gunning, and if DEADLY dealer goes, it will be the same situation as pletchers other rat that I can't think of his name

Sauntering By? Oops... I mean Soaring By. LOL

Sightseek 04-13-2007 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
Yeah and 20 deep in each line with at least 10 jackasses that don't know how to use the new machines.

LOL, if you ever read the headline "Girl Shoots Man at Betting Machines" I swear it wasn't me. :D

SniperSB23 04-13-2007 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
Oh Christ!
You said YESTERDAY that you thought Stormello would turn in a "keyed entry like performance" in this year's Derby. Now you seem to be saying the opposite. You are the most frustrating poster I have ever encountered!!!

Keyed Entry didn't even make it six furlongs when the pace was 1:10 4/5ths. I don't see why he can't think Stormello will be this years Keyed Entry and that he won't run a 1:08 or even close to that.

POINTGIVEN1985 04-13-2007 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
READ my response, he is PROGRESSING in Thorograph terms. His last race in the wood was better then it looked, he ran about 10 furlongs if you figure in ground loss

alright..... but he already couldnt defeat street sense

going into the street sense race he had a prep and a race over a tampa bay track that some horse dont handle.... if he was going to beat him it would have been that day


then he dosent beat nobiz, who was rank the whole trip

i just dont see him running well in the derby, im wrong alot though
but i have felt this way about him for a long time even before the tampa bay derby, and before the wood, i never thought he'd run well in kentucky

Scav 04-13-2007 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
Stormello

You know, I said this on another thread, but Stormello is not Stormello's problem. Stormello's problem is his trainer. I tried to give this guy the benefit but he is a moron. This friggin horse WANTS to rate, he wanted to rate early on BUT then he starts putting these 35' 3f works and 46 works into him and now he is uncontrollable. Seriously, if this horse was with Mandella/Assmussen/McLaughlin/Frankel, you would see a totally different horse

Cajungator26 04-13-2007 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
alright..... but he already couldnt defeat street sense

going into the street sense race he had a prep and a race over a tampa bay track that some horse dont handle.... if he was going to beat him it would have been that day


then he dosent beat nobiz, who was rank the whole trip

i just dont see him running well in the derby, im wrong alot though
but i have felt this way about him for a long time even before the tampa bay derby, and before the wood, i never thought he'd run well in kentucky

Nobiz wasn't rank the whole trip.

POINTGIVEN1985 04-13-2007 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
Oh Christ!
You said YESTERDAY that you thought Stormello would turn in a "keyed entry like performance" in this year's Derby. Now you seem to be saying the opposite. You are the most frustrating poster I have ever encountered!!!

i read where currin said they will rate him, his workout was also very very slow....

POINTGIVEN1985 04-13-2007 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Nobiz wasn't rank the whole trip.


ok at the start of the race and the middle of the race...


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