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booner 10-25-2008 01:58 PM

Who Cares!!
 
It's the freakin' Breeder's Cup!! Today I don't care what Manny is going to do!

OK, I've finally let loose. It feels good to join the ESPN "Basher's Club".

Now back to enjoying a beautiful day. :D

CSC 10-25-2008 02:02 PM

Maybe 1:11.60 is not hard to fathom, the internal fractions are. I think that is why DRF has not posted them yet in their results page. However when the race was being run, it was hard not to notice it may have been off.

10 pnt move up 10-25-2008 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSC
Maybe 1:11.60 is not hard to fathom, the internal fractions are. I think that is why DRF has not posted them yet in their results page. However when the race was being run, it was hard not to notice it may have been off.

21 is not unusual on that course

justindew 10-25-2008 02:23 PM

Goldikova....
 
Champion 3-year-old filly?

Just tossing it out there. Just thinking out loud.

AeWingnut 10-25-2008 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booner
It's the freakin' Breeder's Cup!! Today I don't care what Manny is going to do!

OK, I've finally let loose. It feels good to join the ESPN "Basher's Club".

Now back to enjoying a beautiful day. :D


Who is Manny?

Danzig 10-25-2008 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justindew
Champion 3-year-old filly?

Just tossing it out there. Just thinking out loud.

mm..no

booner 10-25-2008 02:34 PM

Jeannine Edwards was talking to Joe Torre in the paddock and started asking him about re-signing Manny Ramirez. At the time, I really didn't give a rat's a**.

Just letting some steam off.

booner 10-25-2008 02:46 PM

Fantastic race from her, but not Champion 3 yo filly.

miraja2 10-25-2008 02:50 PM

Curlin is NOT the best in 25 years.
 
The guys on ESPN really need to stop acting like the mythical title of "best horse in 25 years" hangs in the balance today. Regardless of what happens today, Curlin is not the best horse in 25 years. Just compare his speed figs with Easy Goer's:

Races with BSFs of 115 or higher
Easy Goer: 9
Curlin: 1

Races with BSFs of 120 or higher
Easy Goer: 4
Curlin: 0

Now, speed figs aren't everything, and the Dubai trip complicates the comparison a bit, but it is obvious that Easy Goer towers over Curlin. When you then factor in that Easy Goer was arguably only the second best horse from that crop, it becomes pretty clear that this idea is ridiculous. Curlin is clearly a good horse, but even if he wins easily today, he is not the best horse in 25 years, and I wish guys like Tessitore would stop pretending otherwise.

AeWingnut 10-25-2008 02:52 PM

oh, baseball. are they still playing?

booner 10-25-2008 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AeWingnut
oh, baseball. are they still playing?

I didn't notice. :D

Merlinsky 10-25-2008 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AeWingnut
oh, baseball. are they still playing?

The sport, or the World Series? Either would be a valid question sometimes. Oh sorry, that was my inner-bitter-Cubs-fan snarking.

10 pnt move up 10-25-2008 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justindew
Champion 3-year-old filly?

Just tossing it out there. Just thinking out loud.

thats called thinking?

its been a very solid 3yo filly year

Dr.SwineSmeller 10-25-2008 03:38 PM

fellow oaklawner
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oaklawnfan
"We are not worthy, we are not worthy.":rolleyes:

It is true that we are not worthy Oaklawnfan. I'm a Hot Springs, Arkansas native, born and bred, still here and lovin' it! I've seen Curlin live in the flesh, as he tore through Oaklawn Park as a three year old on his road to stardom, and I'm a HUGE Curlin fan. He is no doubt a beast. But today, Curlin will bow with the rest of the world to the new King, Casino Drive.

After today, millions of formerly non-believing oafs will begin to draw comparisons of Casino Drive to the great thoroughbred champions of his royal bloodlines. You have to go 8 generations deep in Casino's pedigree before finding a single inbreeding trait.

Casino Drive = Secretariat + Seattle Slew + Better Than Honour + A P Indy + Mineshaft + Mr. Prospector + Northern Dancer (CAN) + Deputy Minister + Nasrullah + Bold Ruler + Turn to (IRE) + Blushing Groom (FR) + Mint Copy + Native Dancer + Traffic Judge + Victoria Regina (CAN) + Buckpasser + Nashua + and yes, even + the immortal Man O War.

Casino is the best bred race horse to ever call planet earth home. And today, he will claim his birthright crown!!

Dr. SwineSmeller

Merlinsky 10-25-2008 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mik9872
The whole telecast on ESPN ispointed to the audience the Breeder' Cup thinks will suddenly embrace horseracing. Even the casual "horseplayer" is left out. Handicapping, that is, the game of examining and weighting various factors is ignored. The concept that people bet on horses is ignored. Where do they think the purses come from?

Hank and his piggy bank wagers. No respect at all. :rolleyes: ;)

In all seriousness, you do realize not all of us can gamble? I mean a lot of people they're trying to reach can't do anything as far as wagering goes given our locations. If they stopped to explain why they went with a certain pick 6 I'd probably zone out. I really don't care. I know other people do but as the typical betting image is one of an old guy smoking with his head shoved in the Form at an OTB, good luck romanticizing betting. The handle seems to be doing pretty well as it is and in the economy we got now, you really wanna be trying to use this as an opportunity for newbie folks with a family to use what little disposable income they may have on the next optional claimer at Santa Anita? The money for ESPN and ABC is in the sponsors. They'd much rather I take my dough and buy Grey Goose vodka to drown out Hank, then to take that same money and lay it down on the BC Classic. The big gripes are things like attendance and since people can bet without going there, what you wanna do is promote the sport itself. I didn't get into it for love of the exacta, but for love of the Black Stallion. It's in the stories. Human and equine interest stories... the bettors that are already out there know their importance. They don't need a shout out from Kenny and Randy beyond what they're already getting-- and I most certainly notice the occasional betting plug so you're getting it whether you realize it or not.

miraja2 10-25-2008 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdjcom
I was wrong and should have kept my trap shut on Euros I know nothing about.

Good point.

AeWingnut 10-25-2008 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.SwineSmeller
It is true that we are not worthy Oaklawnfan. I'm a Hot Springs, Arkansas native, born and bred, still here and lovin' it! I've seen Curlin live in the flesh, as he tore through Oaklawn Park as a three year old on his road to stardom, and I'm a HUGE Curlin fan. He is no doubt a beast. But today, Curlin will bow with the rest of the world to the new King, Casino Drive.

After today, millions of formerly non-believing oafs will begin to draw comparisons of Casino Drive to the great thoroughbred champions of his royal bloodlines. You have to go 8 generations deep in Casino's pedigree before finding a single inbreeding trait.

Casino Drive = Secretariat + Seattle Slew + Better Than Honour + A P Indy + Mineshaft + Mr. Prospector + Northern Dancer (CAN) + Deputy Minister + Nasrullah + Bold Ruler + Turn to (IRE) + Blushing Groom (FR) + Mint Copy + Native Dancer + Traffic Judge + Victoria Regina (CAN) + Buckpasser + Nashua + and yes, even + the immortal Man O War.

Casino is the best bred race horse to ever call planet earth home. And today, he will claim his birthright crown!!

Dr. SwineSmeller

no mention of the great Colin?

AeWingnut 10-25-2008 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlinsky
The sport, or the World Series? Either would be a valid question sometimes. Oh sorry, that was my inner-bitter-Cubs-fan snarking.

funny you should mention the Cubs. When they had to throw the world series to the Padres because they didn't have night baseball at Wrigley I quit watching.

bogus homerun derby didn't bring me back and I really don't care if they play until Christmas

Rudeboyelvis 10-25-2008 03:59 PM

Is there any way possible (offshore, whatever) to bet this horse to come in last?

... Please say it is so.




Dr. Mush is about 87% touting a horse to win only to have it come in last or second to last.


At the risk of coming across as greedy, please tell me you've got the Phillies tonight :$: :$: :$:

hrfan 10-25-2008 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I'm leaving

u should


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