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Coach Pants 06-06-2011 12:59 PM

Why is LeBron being compared to guys with multiple championships?

He's not one of the greats. Deal with it.

Antitrust32 06-06-2011 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 782065)
Why is LeBron being compared to guys with multiple championships?

He's not one of the greats. Deal with it.

he's still in the midst of his prime and had to carry a pretty bad team for years. Look at cleveland post Lebron... 23 straight losses or something like that?

I can understand not liking the guy or his "decision", but the talent is there and he's one of the best players in the league, if not the best. He also happens to play with one of the best players in the league, if not the best, so what's the big deal if D-Wade scores points at the end of games and Lebron makes assists?

ateamstupid 06-06-2011 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 782064)
C'mon this is weak. It's Dwayne freakin Wade, not John Starks. Probably the 2nd or 3rd best scorer in the world. You are holding him to a standard that cant possibly be met because you don't like him. I was never a fan of Larry Bird but I respected his game.

Nine points in three fourth quarters. If you think that's worthy of the best player in the world, we have different ideas of what that means. He's a great talent, but it's painfully obvious that he's not even the best player on his team. Wade is the reason they'll win this series if they win it.

Antitrust32 06-06-2011 01:11 PM

you should let the series play itself out.

Lebron is a huge reason they are in the Finals to begin with. He's been the MVP of the playoffs so far along with Dirk.

clyde 06-06-2011 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 782066)
he's still in the midst of his prime and had to carry a pretty bad team for years. Look at cleveland post Lebron... 23 straight losses or something like that?

I can understand not liking the guy or his "decision", but the talent is there and he's one of the best players in the league, if not the best. He also happens to play with one of the best players in the league, if not the best, so what's the big deal if D-Wade scores points at the end of games and Lebron makes assists?


Uncly...please don't get me started.

He probably has the most talent....but what you went on to say about when he was here and when he left,is not accurate nor pretty.

Antitrust32 06-06-2011 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde (Post 782070)
Uncly...please don't get me started.

He probably has the most talent....but what you went on to say about when he was here and when he left,is not accurate nor pretty.

How many times do you think Cleveland makes the playoffs with out LeBron since the year they drafted him?

Antitrust32 06-06-2011 01:25 PM

sorry Morty you are right. i think it was 26 losses in a row, not 23. My mistake!

clyde 06-06-2011 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 782072)
How many times do you think Cleveland makes the playoffs with out LeBron since the year they drafted him?


Well I don't know...because without him Cleveland drafts someone else----and then everything changes.


But you are going to make me correct you.

Pretty bad teams?

Teams don't win 50+ 4 times all because of one player.They don't win 66 because of only one player. By your measure, Cleveland was better a better TEAM than Miami in James' last year here than in his first year with them.

And we lost him AND our only 2 centers..completely changed the strategy with a new coach and then lost the Brazilian as well as the point guard as well as the power forward we got from Washington.The 3 best players at that time.Raw rookies and the little experienced then joined in the fun.

Really,really.

clyde 06-06-2011 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 782075)
sorry Morty you are right. i think it was 26 losses in a row, not 23. My mistake!



:mad:

knickslions2 06-06-2011 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 782072)
How many times do you think Cleveland makes the playoffs with out LeBron since the year they drafted him?

They probably would have made them every year cause if they didn't draft Lebron they would have had Carmello.

clyde 06-06-2011 01:34 PM

That's it...I'm leaving!

Antitrust32 06-06-2011 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 782079)
They probably would have made them every year cause if they didn't draft Lebron they would have had Carmello.

and they still wouldnt have any rings!!! (sorry clyde)

Lebron is a much better basketball player than Melo. If the Cavs had drafted Wade who knows what would have happened.

knickslions2 06-06-2011 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 782082)
and they still wouldnt have any rings!!! (sorry clyde)

Lebron is a much better basketball player than Melo. If the Cavs had drafted Wade who knows what would have happened.

I agree with that. They were close but the Spurs, Celtics and Lakers had too many stars. Doubt they would have won with wade either.

Coach Pants 06-06-2011 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 782066)
he's still in the midst of his prime and had to carry a pretty bad team for years. Look at cleveland post Lebron... 23 straight losses or something like that?

I can understand not liking the guy or his "decision", but the talent is there and he's one of the best players in the league, if not the best. He also happens to play with one of the best players in the league, if not the best, so what's the big deal if D-Wade scores points at the end of games and Lebron makes assists?

He should be compared to Charles Barkley, not Larry Bird.

Antitrust32 06-06-2011 02:36 PM

pretty good summary

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Even with Wade's surge in the Finals, James remains the Heat's playoff leader in points, assists and steals, and is virtually tied with Bosh for top rebounder. None of that seems to matter at the moment. It's as if LeBron's big shots in closing out the Celtics and Bulls didn't get forwarded to his new address at the Finals.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playof...=LeBron-110606

ateamstupid 06-06-2011 02:54 PM

Spare me the pity party for a guy who calls himself The King. It's the Finals, his first shot at it in four years. The best player in the world can't be the third-best player in a Finals.

MISTERGEE 06-06-2011 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 782085)
He should be compared to Charles Barkley, not Larry Bird.

robert horrey has 7 championship rings, so what does that make him?

Cannon Shell 06-06-2011 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 782068)
Nine points in three fourth quarters. If you think that's worthy of the best player in the world, we have different ideas of what that means. He's a great talent, but it's painfully obvious that he's not even the best player on his team. Wade is the reason they'll win this series if they win it.

You are the Mike Watchmaker of Basketball player rankings

Cannon Shell 06-06-2011 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 782079)
They probably would have made them every year cause if they didn't draft Lebron they would have had Carmello.

Or Darko

Cannon Shell 06-06-2011 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 782085)
He should be compared to Charles Barkley, not Larry Bird.

I used Bird because I hated the Celtics and didn't like Bird. But you know that once they win a few rings you guys will come up with something else to harp on.


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