Ralphy...Riot's rear view mirror.



She sees what she wants to see,whether anything's closer to her than anything appears to be...or not.

It's perfectly o.k. to stick a sign in a moving car.

So politically correct it hurts.

Ror !!

(and a Ror for you too Clydee Poo)

It matches exactly what she said happened. It further verifies her veracity.

She said she went up to the car - you can see suits rushing up to push her away (although they didn't push away the Rand sign guys right next to her, of course).

Then take all the time it takes for Paul to get out of the car, etc (where the other full-length video picks up) - meanwhile the volunteer goons are chasing her around the car (which is exactly what she said happened) and pull her back and down to the ground and stomp on her. There are two Lexington PD standing right next to Paul as he gets out of the car.

They tried to get the police to get her out of there beforehand - Proffitt foolishly admitted it - and the police of course said no reason to get her away (because it is, you know, entirely legal to protest political candidates). They knew this girl from previous Rand Paul events.

So the absolute rush to pull her back by the suits - that just plays into her hands about them deciding to target her beforehand. And after they push her back about 10 feet (shown on your tape) - the goons take it up and continue chasing her around the car, finally taking her down and stomping on her?

That makes it WORSE for the goons - she already is no longer any possible "threat" (not that holding up a political sign is justification for assault in the USA in the first place)

You know who revealed the names of Tim Proffitt and Mike Pezzano to the police, in response to the pictures posted on blogs taken from the tape, and from cell phone pics taken by other Rand supporter people there who couldn't believe what was going on?

Female Kentucky Tea Party members who were disgusted by what happened.

And the main blog responsible for identifying these guys was the blog of a Rand Paul supporter who was at the event, and made sure he got good pictures of the guys faces immediately afterwards.

And it gets even more weird .... !
 

Google News from SF Chronicle tonight. There are pictures and video on the site:

so considering what a Conway supporter did (tin foil hat and all) surely your in the Rand camp now! :eek:

Stay on the Muslim/Death Row Imate/ Illegal Alien side! Now I understand the change in the GOP and God Bless!

Newspaper people and bloggers have been looking for the lady who said she had her foot stomped at the rally, she can't be found.

BTW, I'm not on the death row imate (sic) side. I'm on the capital punishment side. And what's the deal with illegal aliens?

Really, Dell, the way you assume and make up crap about other posters is beyond irritating.

True, I most certainly don't hate Muslims like you do. I guess that anger and hate works for you, though ...

Both guys are assh.oles and they should be punished. What they did was disgusting. I don't care what she did. They were wrong.

But give me a break with the breast grabbing. I just watched the video again. He was restraining her (and wrong in doing it) but he isn't sexually assaulting her. There is no need to try and make this look bad, because it already looks awful.

Yeah, that seems to be a reach. This guy (Mike Pezzano) already came out yesterday and said he didn't know Proffitt was at the rally, didn't approve of what he did (the stomp) while he was holding the woman down.

Seems this guy got it right away that this was gonna be ugly and public. I didn't know he had "disappeared". Hopefully he's lawyering up.

Edit: click on the link above, again. There's an update. He's throwing his buddy under the bus. There's also a picture of him standing in a Lexington park, wearing what looks to be like an assault rifle. Good times at the Tea Party!

where's Gloria Aldred??? in all this

Mike Pezzano: "I was just trying to protect Rand. I was more worried about Rand's safety than I was anything else. It's like if someone yells fire... you don't just sit there. You do something,"

Bet he wish he had his gun with him! I'm sure the two Lexington Police officers standing about 15 feet away, and the suits that pushed the woman back from the car when she first held up the sign, were glad these bubbas were there to help. Especially after the cops already told them they wouldn't make her leave. Bet Rand is glad, too :tro:

forgot you were on AZ's side when the Fed said they can't process and deport saving the Fed the money. My bad!

When Rand Paul wins, will we change the name of this thread to, "Rand Paul, intolerant winner"? :D

not exactly the same... in fact totally different (not that I expect anything else from you)

If I attend a Catholic rally in rainbow chaps and decide to rush the Pope, I will expect to get pushed to the ground and held down.

you really are an idiot

:tro::tro::tro:

Let me get this straight. I can get away with shoving a sign in a window of a moving vehicle with a passenger sitting at that window?

only if RIOT approves the content of the sign

Tuesday is going to be the bestest Tuesday evar!

Yes, he will win, and yes, he is intolerant. He will work to take rights away from women, gays, minorities. It's very sad he will be elected.

But I"ll bet you don't expect, after you get pushed away from the Pope and that threat is gone, to be continued to be chased by the crowd, and held down and stomped on by other attendees who decide they are now in charge of "security"?

Hard to run fast in chaps, btw ....

You could attend a Rand Paul rally and propose gay rights, and I'm sure you will get shoved to the ground. Our next Senator doesn't believe in gay rights. I'm angry over that for you. It's not fair. You sex life is none of his business. How dare he throw his religion over your rights as a person. Of course, according to you I'm just an idiot, so probably Rand Paul is right on that.

She didn't. The suits in charge of that rushed her and pushed her back. Threat gone. The two Lexington cops were standing next to Paul. No, it's not against the law to shove a sign in the car window - she didn't even touch the candidate. Please, that happens daily in politics, with paparazzi, sports figures, etc.

The problem comes when after that, Bubba and his friends then took up the chase, chased her around the car, took her down, and stomped on her.

She'd been to other Rand Paul rallies. Bubba and friends knew her, and said they asked the Lexington cops to get her out of there. Cops said no. Why? Because having different political views is legal. Being an obnoxious MoveOn.org person is legal (as legal as being an obnoxious Tea Party person). Assault is not legal.

That's why there are assault charges and civil suits going again Bubba and friends, and not at the MoveOn.org person.

And you're a snarky bitch with self-esteem issues. And stupid. So?

If she ran around the Pope mobile she surely would be wrestled down.


Are you admitting defeat? And where does Rand say he wants to be involved in gay people's sex lives?

:zz: Defeat? Rand's been way ahead in the polls since forever - I doubt there is any way he could lose.

Uh ... his long history of statements demonstrating his anti-gay stance? Duh.

you're not JUST an idiot.. you are many other things also!!

I dont agree with Rand Paul about gay rights. I also wont be voting for anyone in Kentucky.. I'll probably be voting for Marco Rubio down here in Florida. He also I'm sure doesnt support gay rights. Gay rights may mean something to me, but it really doesnt affect my vote, because neither Republicans or Democrats do anything to help advance gay rights. Everything has been the same with obama and the Dem congress since 2006 than it was the 6 years prior to 2006. Obama says he's for gay rights, but his office asks for a Stay on DADT... and his Justice department released some very unkind words about gays in the past that I'm sure you remember. Dems will cater to the gays when they want their vote... but I dont see them actually doing anything about it. If Obama ever does get DADT out of the law books, I'll give him his props.. but he needs to actually come through on that before he is given the benefit of the doubt.

I dont vote based on abortion or gay rights. A lot of republicans have no problem with gays. Unfortunately, the ones who run for office seem to have to cater to the ignorant religious folks. But even when they had all the branches of the government for 6 years, no new anti-gay laws were put in place.. they just carried on Clinton's laws. (a dem, btw).

Gay rights will be sorted out in time. this type of "change" doesnt occur over night. The vast majority of today's youth are accepting and rational. Old people will die off pretty soon.

IMO, there are much more important matters going on in this country to vote for someone based on gay rights, when I know said someone isnt going to do anything for or against gay rights anyway.

That is why I'll vote conservative. I dont care for either party, but the conservatives are slightly less of an evil. only slightly though.


Now when it comes to the issue of crazy moveon bitc.h.. I'm sure you saw in my post where I said the Rand Paul guys are dumbasses, and that no man ever has the right to push a woman to the ground. You ignored that part as usual. But if you think that this woman was just some innocent victim, than we really dont have anything to discuss about this topic. You cant do what she did and expect people to just watch you thrust signs into Senate Candidates windows. If I would have done that, I would have expected to be restrained. Plus, I'd be willing to bet that all adults have been pushed to the ground at one point in their life... this story does not deserve all the attention it is getting.

Pushing someone to the ground shound amount to 3 months probation and 50 hours of community service.

If the crazy bitc.h sues the men.. then she loses all credibility. She got pushed to the freaking ground! and a guy held her down on the ground with his foot on her shoulder! the men were idiots, and if I were a straight Kentuckian.. I sure wouldnt want to date a man who would push a chick to the ground. but doggonit, people are acting like she was shot 16 times, tied to the back of Rand Paul's car, and drug through the streets.

You get what you vote for. Looks like you are willing to lose rights you have right now. Your choice.

I'll agree with the snarky bitch (when it comes to dealing with you). But I can assure you that my self esteem is a#1doubleplusgood.

how can you pull that one quote out of a long post when I addressed those issues. I wont be losing any rights. or gaining rights. I'll gain my rights when the old people die off (aka your generation)

Instead of lecturing me about what I will and wont recieve from Dems and Republicans... why dont you talk to your peers about not hating on gay rights?

They are going to take away your ability to breathe!!

Riot is an obvious troll. Who was that old poster that was a similar lunatic in this sub-forum years ago? It might be that guy.

downthestretch or something? would write long stories about chicken's and **** like that?

Riot is an actual woman and Vet (I know, scary thought)

This has been confirmed to me by a pretty girl who rides race horses. She has a lot of respect for Riot.. & I make sure to joke on her about that.

that's it. downthestretch55.

Thebby?

I say men that would attack a women, as a group, while they are right next to police officers - including that excuse for a man who walked up and stomped on her once she was already laying on the ground in a fetal position completely passively (and now wants an apology from her )- because they didn't like her politics (or sex, or skin color, or religion, or sexual orientation) is definitely the start of that hate crime slope.

You either tolerate and forgive intolerance and hate, or you do not. Everyone draws their "tolerance" line where they want. People here have shown where theirs is.

Typical democrat wanting to pile on the charges. A hate crime?

GTFO

I do. I have since I was 20. And I don't tolerate their intolerance (which is very common in my age group, against many things, unfortunately).

It's hard to fight intolerance. Look at all the rude, nasty personal attacks you and others here post against people who dare to disagree with your political views.

Intolerant assholes are everywhere.

It's hilarious I'll defend your rights as a gay, but you will not. You get and deserve only as much as you earn.

not everything is black and white.

How many times do I have to say that the Rand Paul guys were dumbasses and sorry excuses for men?

But there would have been no story at all.. no chasing.. no getting pushed to the ground, if she wasnt crazy and ran around the people standing infront of her and ran at Rand Pauls car & infront of his car, etc. She instigated a group of morons with her own moronic behavior. Two morons dont make a right.

I had a friend who was called a "nigg.." by some punk kid so my friend hit him. My friend happened to be a very strong college football players and broke the punks face in 4 places with one punch. My friend got charged with assault. But was the punk kid not a moron who instigated the situation?

You cant always do and say things and expect no retaliation.

Or if you dressed as an Altar boy...

Yes, that's what I just said. Everyone draws their line where they think right.

Blaming the victim? Good one.

Yet our laws protect one from "retaliation" at public political rallies. The morons broke the law. She didn't. They were out to get her. They targeted this one person from previous rallies. And they were stupid enough to announce that repeatedly in public.

Didn't you just call her a snarky bitch and question her self-esteem?