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knickslions2 10-02-2010 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 702190)
Whoever said I was intelligent!?

I almost never post anything longer than too sentences!
Some people could learn from your style

Smooth Operator 10-02-2010 11:45 AM
Oh my God...

knickslions2 10-02-2010 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 702189)
When will Zenyatta's legions of fans realize and accept that her supposed "detractors" also think she is a really good horse. Nobody is saying she "blows." I think EVERYBODY is impressed with her consistency and her ability to retain form year after year. She also deserves (and gets) credit for winning races on three different types of synthetic surfaces and dirt. A lot of good horses can't do that, and she can.

Okay fine. She's a really good horse. Nobody really disputes that.

It is only when people start saying she is one of the best ever that her supposed "detractors" rightfully begin to raise points against her.
There is a big range between "blows" and "one of the best ever." In my opinion, she fits somewhere in that range.
Hey I agree with you she is a very good horse. I never said she was the greatest ever. His post basically said she is comparable to a AAA baseball player. She is much better than that.

knickslions2 10-02-2010 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 702194)
Oh my God...
Ya I started drinking early today. Need it for the PSU game tonight

JerseyJ 10-02-2010 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 702186)
Oh I can comprehend it...I just can't believe an intelligent person drafted it
What exactly there genius is inaccurate about what I said? Her biggest adversity she's ever faced is having Mike Smith on her back, and with each "scintillating" win, Moss and Sherriffs have had the opportunity to run her in bigger and better races and each time they have kept her at the lower levels of racing rather than stepping out of the box and challenging her and gulp, facing some males...

Indian Charlie 10-02-2010 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 702194)
Oh my God...
What do you want now?

JerseyJ 10-02-2010 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 702195)
Hey I agree with you she is a very good horse. I never said she was the greatest ever. His post basically said she is comparable to a AAA baseball player. She is much better than that.
I never said that she is a AAA baseball player..I compared her to the plight of a guy who is always better than a AAA player but who never gets an extended shot in the majors to show how good he is or can be. She's proven time and time again obviously she's deserving of taking on bigger and better things but she never gets a chance because of her cowardly connections.

knickslions2 10-02-2010 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by JerseyJ (Post 702201)
I never said that she is a AAA baseball player..I compared her to the plight of a guy who is always better than a AAA player but who never gets an extended shot in the majors to show how good he is or can be. She's proven time and time again obviously she's deserving of taking on bigger and better things but she never gets a chance because of her cowardly connections.
Well lets drop it. Good luck on any bets you make today! Can't wait to see if Twirling Candy is the real deal

Dahoss 10-02-2010 11:59 AM
She's also a fantastic dancer. I can't wait to see her strut her stuff in the paddock. Hopefully I can hold back the tears this time.

Danzig 10-02-2010 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 702205)
She's also a fantastic dancer. I can't wait to see her strut her stuff in the paddock. Hopefully I can hold back the tears this time.
i hope she bows today, that would be so awesome.

Indian Charlie 10-02-2010 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 702208)
i hope she bows today, that would be so awesome.
That's a terrible thing to say about a horse.

miraja2 10-02-2010 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 702205)
She's also a fantastic dancer. I can't wait to see her strut her stuff in the paddock. Hopefully I can hold back the tears this time.
Calling her just a "fantastic" dancer seems to leave open the possibility that you think some other horse might actually be a better dancer.

That's ridiculous. Please desist in this obvious smear campaign against her.

She is obviously the greatest four-legged dancer in the history of earth, and any suggestion otherwise is a disgrace to the sport.

Dahoss 10-02-2010 12:10 PM
Point taken, I apologize. Maybe after she retires they'll ask her to be on Dancing With the Stars.

Smooth Operator 10-02-2010 12:17 PM
If the big mare can pull off these next two, some of you guys might as well grab a couple bananas and start swinging in the trees...

Theatrical 10-02-2010 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 702211)
Point taken, I apologize. Maybe after she retires they'll ask her to be on Dancing With the Stars.
Maybe after she retires, you'll fall head first into a pile of poop and need a number or a piece of paper to tell you what it is.

JerseyJ 10-02-2010 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 702213)
If the big mare can pull off these next two, some of you guys might as well grab a couple bananas and start swinging in the trees...
Pull off these next two??? Today is like a regular athlete competing in the Special Olympics.

Dahoss 10-02-2010 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Theatrical (Post 702214)
Maybe after she retires, you'll fall head first into a pile of poop and need a number or a piece of paper to tell you what it is.
I guess you didn't like the idea. Can't please everyone.

RolloTomasi 10-02-2010 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by JerseyJ (Post 702215)
Pull off these next two??? Today is like a regular athlete competing in the Special Olympics.
No, she only runs to her competition's level.

When they make the movie of her career, Johnny Knoxville should be tapped to play Zenyatta.

Dahoss 10-02-2010 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JerseyJ (Post 702215)
Pull off these next two??? Today is like a regular athlete competing in the Special Olympics.
Why isn't she in the Goodwood today? Oh that's right...god forbid she has more than one competitive race per year.

Viva Zenyatta...

Danzig 10-02-2010 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 702219)
Why isn't she in the Goodwood today? Oh that's right...god forbid she has more than one competitive race per year.

Viva Zenyatta...
why isn't she?

because she doesn't need to prove her greatness, we should all just assume it. the win streak is the most important thing. one need only look at her races this year to see what they wanted more than anything. not to prove greatness, not to take on the best. it was to tie and maybe pass the glorous pepper's pride for the record.

prudery 10-02-2010 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 702220)
why isn't she?

because she doesn't need to prove her greatness, we should all just assume it. the win streak is the most important thing. one need only look at her races this year to see what they wanted more than anything. not to prove greatness, not to take on the best. it was to tie and maybe pass the glorous pepper's pride for the record.
You and Duh Hoss have a dead heat for unoriginal prose--regardless who you like or dislike .

And I bet you'd give your left knocker to have a horse like Pepper's Pride in your barn .

Duh Hoss also would give his left something , if he could afford it ...

Indian Charlie 10-02-2010 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by prudery (Post 702347)
You and Duh Hoss have a dead heat for unoriginal prose--regardless who you like or dislike .

And I bet you'd give your left knocker to have a horse like Pepper's Pride in your barn .

Duh Hoss also would give his left something , if he could afford it ...
You can tell when it's getting close to a Z race when you come on and post something really stupid.

What's next? Are you going to make up some medical name for me having my head up my ass?

freddymo 10-02-2010 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by prudery (Post 702347)
You and Duh Hoss have a dead heat for unoriginal prose--regardless who you like or dislike .

And I bet you'd give your left knocker to have a horse like Pepper's Pride in your barn .

Duh Hoss also would give his left something , if he could afford it ...
Hoss is a gelding.. If ole Peppers pride was KY bred she would have raced today Turfway in a 20k claimer.. Hoss's left Knocker sold for 25k

prudery 10-02-2010 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 702349)
You can tell when it's getting close to a Z race when you come on and post something really stupid.

What's next? Are you going to make up some medical name for me having my head up my ass?
I already have one==it is called recto-cranial inversion--I believe I already diagnosed you as terminal .

Piss off---your posts are hardly endless strings of pearls of wisdom,chump ...

And I was not even talking to you ...

Dahoss 10-02-2010 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by prudery (Post 702347)
You and Duh Hoss have a dead heat for unoriginal prose--regardless who you like or dislike .

And I bet you'd give your left knocker to have a horse like Pepper's Pride in your barn .

Duh Hoss also would give his left something , if he could afford it ...
Yes, as we all know when it comes to originality, the name people think of is Prudery/Nikki/Mikki. Which one of you thought up Duh Hoss? Very clever.

The other pigs around the barn must have gotten a real chuckle out of that.

Coach Pants 10-02-2010 06:00 PM

Rudeboyelvis 10-02-2010 06:01 PM
Renterval out - 1-50 now lol She's the Greatest!

NTamm1215 10-02-2010 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 702365)
Renterval out - 1-50 now lol She's the Greatest!
She was scared like Quality Road last year in the Classic.

Dahoss 10-02-2010 06:03 PM
I was serious with my question. Is there any real reason why Zenyatta isn't running in the Goodwood?

Coach Pants 10-02-2010 06:04 PM
There are plenty of reasons revolving around greed, selfishness and cowardice...but real reasons nope.

Dahoss 10-02-2010 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 702370)
There are plenty of reasons revolving around greed, selfishness and cowardice...but real reasons nope.
Yeah, but did you just see her dance?

Coach Pants 10-02-2010 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 702378)
Yeah, but did you just see her dance?
Nah I'm not watching the pre-workout festivities. There's only so much I can take.

NTamm1215 10-02-2010 06:10 PM
Did anyone just hear Eric Reed say there had to be 24 hr security for Rinterval because there were death threats on her?

There's an APB out for Smooth Operator.

Coach Pants 10-02-2010 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 702384)
Did anyone just hear Eric Reed say there had to be 24 hr security for Rinterval because there were death threats on her?

There's an APB out for Smooth Operator.
The effeminate fat guy with the mullet is wanted for questioning.

NTamm1215 10-02-2010 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 702385)
The effeminate fat guy with the mullet is wanted for questioning.
Oh yeah, he had a tank top on too, right?

brianwspencer 10-02-2010 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 702210)
Calling her just a "fantastic" dancer seems to leave open the possibility that you think some other horse might actually be a better dancer.

That's ridiculous. Please desist in this obvious smear campaign against her.

She is obviously the greatest four-legged dancer in the history of earth, and any suggestion otherwise is a disgrace to the sport.
Now that Rachel is retired, maybe the new forum rivalry can be Zenyatta vs. Dancing Merengue Dog. I think it's clear that Zenyatta is second-best four-legged dancer in the history of the earth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc9xq-TVyHI

Dahoss 10-02-2010 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 702384)
Did anyone just hear Eric Reed say there had to be 24 hr security for Rinterval because there were death threats on her?

There's an APB out for Smooth Operator.
Hard to believe. Zenyatta fans always strike me as extremely rational folk.

Which begs the question...if you knew Rinterval was getting death threats, would you want to be the jockey, trainer or owner of the horse that beats Zenyatta?

Coach Pants 10-02-2010 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 702387)
Oh yeah, he had a tank top on too, right?
I believe so.


Here we go. History in the making! Giggidy giggidy

Dahoss 10-02-2010 06:18 PM
How loud is Vic going to yell YES!!!! When she wins? Someone let me know, I'm watching Collmus on ESPN.

Coach Pants 10-02-2010 06:19 PM
Come on Baffert!


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