F the connections of both horses, to me the connections are a wash.
It's all about the horses and what they do on the track.

So much for not wanting to discuss it huh?

I've seen their entire email exchange. PG is lying. Like I said, I'm sure everyone that is familiar with his history is shocked by this.

Are you PA?

Seriously I don't know why you defend the guy? He has terrible opinions, he plays by hyprocritical rules, he is a censor, a bully, and if you don't bow down to him, he bans you. I don't know he must have a good thing going over there, to me he's a slime bag that I would never trust in a million years.

LOL, dosent it say enough that he saw the email exchange? PA HAS BEEN ASKING ME **** ABOUT HIM FOR 2 WEEKS, Why the hell would I lie. I never even said Hoss name, HE BROUGHT HIMSELF INTO IT. Because he has nothing better to do.

And like I said 2 weeks ago, you have a new beef every week. On this site, on PA or in real life.... So keep up the good work champ.

Anyone who shares a private email on a public forum is...well you fill in the blanks.

Im done with this, its been a great weekend of racing. I made a comment, ANYONE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK. I never once brought DAHOSS INTO IT. He brought himself into it.

Seriously, who cares about your opinion?

Look where?

It wasn't in a public forum. I know it hurts that he banned you, but get over it already.

In the thread all I said was he is asking me questions about another poster and this lifeless, nothing better to do on Sunday, POS has totally gone off the wall and brought himself into it. I never said his name, but he will fight it to the end now. 3 pms from him already... Threatening me, telling me he will get the last laugh, its insane. I just had a huge day and I have to deal with him.

Why do you insist on lying? What do you get from it?

Oh brother…


Um, Danzig, she was OVERRATED by many last year.

She would've gotten CREAMED in the BCC, regardless of venue…

I don't understand why anyone interacts with him. He's clearly unbalanced, given his actions here and on PA. Nothing more to say.

It only hurts that I can't be over there right now, for obvious reasons. Actually I am quite proud to be banned from that site, it only confirms to me that my nose never turned brown and my lips don't smell of jockey's.

Thank god the voice of reason, The Fat Man chimed in. If anyone would know about being unbalanced, it's certainly him.

Must be over (finally) the lashing Coach gave him earlier.

You don't have to deal with him. Just ignore him. It's really pretty simple. Glad to hear you had a good day.

No, your lips smell like a bike seat. To each his own, but that's nasty man.

Pace Advantage is lame

Anybody back on subject? When RA turned for home I thought she was home free. I guess the 1 1/4 got her today.

If we're still talking about racing -- wasn't this Shug/Phipps's first Grade 1 win in several years?

Not sure, but Pine Island might have been the last one..

Sorry to see RA lose, but if she had to.. It was great to see a grand daughter of Heavenly Prize win..

Way too levelheaded for this thread.

I think Heavenly Prize had a daughter run at Monmouth today. Shug actually ran two babies going 5.5 furlongs at Monmouth today.

Hilarious to see that P was sired by a sprinter which apparently hasn't produced any other classic distance winners.

Thanks, I was thinking it might be her.

Carriage Trail and Dancing Forever in '08

I remember a time when McGaughey/Phipps were a good bet first time out...

I completely forgot about Dancing Forever's Manhattan..

In breeding parlance, the dam side (bottom) produces stamina. Persistently's first dam sires' are Deputy Minister, Seeking the Gold, Nijinsky, Riva Ridge. Looks like Smoke Glacken ...the sire...donated a nice turn of foot.

then you're another who sounds clueless when discussing rachel and her campaign last year. it was a true rarity. i get you prefer zenyatta, but rachel had a fabulous year last year. sorry. you're letting personal preference and bias cloud your judgement. any other year, zenyatta wins hoy. but last year wasn't any other year.

pine island still smarts. love to see a phipps homebred do well, i always root for them and any with a claiborne connections as well. i'm still kicking myself for not putting a couple down on persistently. shug and denny had to be over the moon about winning the personal ensign with her today. hated to see rachel lose, but it was a good win for them.

One of the first things I learned on this site was "Shug-Phipps is $$$ in big races". I guess this was big enough :$:

Thank you to Danzig for being a rare voice of reason and "horse sense" :tro:

Seriously guys? Seriously? Take it to Esoteric if you want to act like kindergartners :baby:

Yet another race in which,had she been in it, ZenYadda would have waxed the field.

She'd win by maybe a half-length.

She could run in a 4 claimer at Ellis and give the fans a heart attack.

She does this purposefully.



The consumate entertainer.

Nah, the entertainment part is the paddock prancing. She is all business when it is time to face the likes of Anaabaa's Creation.

But isn't that a goat?

:rolleyes:


RA basically competed against glorified mules in '09...