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ArlJim78 03-19-2007 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Well as usual I miss all of the fun because I am at work, but this turned into one of the better threads in a long time. I was going to pop in Dumb and Dumber because it was a long day and I needed a laugh. Luckily I read this thread and no need to do it now.

The various threads here today put Dumb and Dumber to shame in terms of laughter. You just can't write this stuff.

miraja2 03-19-2007 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
The various threads here today put Dumb and Dumber to shame in terms of laughter. You just can't write this stuff.

Easy there Jim, Dumb and Dumber is pretty damn funny. These threads have been amusing, but that scene where he picks up that snowball and chucks it in her face......that cracks me up every time.

ArlJim78 03-19-2007 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
Easy there Jim, Dumb and Dumber is pretty damn funny. These threads have been amusing, but that scene where he picks up that snowball and chucks it in her face......that cracks me up every time.

I'm not that high brow, my favorite is the toilet scene.

kentuckyrosesinmay 03-19-2007 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Grits
Alright now, we gotta settle down here. I don't want to be party to hammering this young person's dreams.

Still, I have to keep in mind that this is part on the online experience, . . . in other words, I couldn't make this S**T up.

Entertainment and all, this it is.

How are you all hammering my dreams? I'm going to college to be a cardiologist, own a very nice horse, and hang out with some of the biggest names in Thoroughbred racing. I'm already in the middle of everything in the industry living the good life. In other words, I was being very facetious in my previous post...

Antitrust32 03-19-2007 06:59 PM

[quote=Cajungator26]I'm not trying to bust her dreams... it's just that things are very different in the racing industry. I have a background in show jumpers, and while I know a few things in regards to that discipline, the same rules don't always apply to racing. A successful race horse doesn't have to win any conformation contests if he/she can run fast and get the job done, you know? I definitely look at conformation (sometimes to the dismay of others, lol), but I think I've finally learned my lesson that how a horse looks in the paddock and in the warm-up isn't always going to be a preview of how they're going to race.[/QUOTE]

i am glad that my losses at the track could let you learn that... :p
that damn 6 horse. or was it the 2? :rolleyes:

blackthroatedwind 03-19-2007 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
In other words, I was being very facetious in my previous post...


I could be wrong, but " very facetious " might be a lot like " very unique ".

Regardless, thanks for clearing that up for all of us morons on the site. We were all confused for a second that you weren't ridiculously full of yourself.

Coach Pants 03-19-2007 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
How are you all hammering my dreams? I'm going to college to be a cardiologist, own a very nice horse, and hang out with some of the biggest names in Thoroughbred racing. I'm already in the middle of everything in the industry living the good life. In other words, I was being very facetious in my previous post...

Don't you go to a junior college?

blackthroatedwind 03-19-2007 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
Don't you go to a junior college?



They're small hearts.

kentuckyrosesinmay 03-19-2007 07:06 PM

Yep, getting ready to graduate and transfer. I'll continue to work at the college for the summer. Then I'll get the BS in Biology at UNC-Chapel Hill and then on to med school from there. I've got 10 more years to go, but it will all pay off. Following in my dad's footsteps...

blackthroatedwind 03-19-2007 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
Yep, getting ready to graduate and transfer. I'll continue to work at the college for the summer. Then I'll get the BS in Biology at UNC-Chapel Hill and then on to med school from there. I've got 10 more years to go, but it will all pay off. Following in my dad's footsteps...


I wouldn't include your work on this board on your resume.

Coach Pants 03-19-2007 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
Yep, getting ready to graduate and transfer. I'll continue to work at the college for the summer. Then I'll get the BS in Biology at UNC-Chapel Hill and then on to med school from there. I've got 10 more years to go, but it will all pay off. Following in my dad's footsteps...

Daddy's little girl. Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww


















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randallscott35 03-19-2007 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I wouldn't include your work on this board on your resume.

Ice cold.

Grits 03-19-2007 07:09 PM

I am dying here. LOLOLOLOLOL This one could end the thread!!!!!

Oh man, I'm laughing so hard.

kentuckyrosesinmay 03-19-2007 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I wouldn't include your work on this board on your resume.

Why would I do that? What does a horse racing message board have to do with medical school?:rolleyes:

blackthroatedwind 03-19-2007 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
What does a horse racing message board have to do with medical school?:rolleyes:

About as much as your posts in this thread have to do with horseracing.

Coach Pants 03-19-2007 07:13 PM

"I can tell Simon Cowell's heart has blockage just by watching him on TV."

ArlJim78 03-19-2007 07:14 PM

This is now a five rattle thread. What a treat!

ArlJim78 03-19-2007 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I wouldn't include your work on this board on your resume.

This might not look good on the resume either;
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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
Smarty Jones isn't even in the same league as Bernardini. Bernardini would crush Smarty Jones. Bernardini is a better mover, bigger, faster, better built, and more talented than Smarty Jones. This horse is the best horse since Spectacular Bid. If he wins the BC Classic, he will be #1 on my greatest of all time list. 3 year olds don't crush older horses like he did in the JCGC without even being hit with the whip. Wanderin Boy is no pushover. Invasor was all out to beat Wanderin Boy in the Pimlico Special and Bernardini ran by Wanderin Boy with utmost ease even though he let Wanderin Boy crawl through a 25 opening furlong. I don't need to see the horse run face to face with another horse. I know what he is. A horse that has the fire in his eyes like he does will win the battle. He will literally crush his opponent when they look him in the eye. He will turn them back and make them falter. Bernardini is one of the best moving horses that I have ever seen. In fact, he may bet the best. The competition is ducking the horse. They are afraid of him. Even Lava Man's connections said that Bernardini was scary. He is scary. There is no other way to put it. And he gets better with every race.

He probably won't be headed until he faces Discreet Cat in the Dubai World Cup next year. However, even Discreet Cat won't be a match for this horse at a mile and a quarter. The truth is that Bernardini may never get headed because he is just too good. And yes, I bank on both of them being in the Dubai World Cup if both remain healthy. I really don't think that Bernardini will retire next year.


kentuckyrosesinmay 03-19-2007 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
This might not look good on the resume either;

How long ago was it that I said that? Months ago and I was wrong. You all tend to forget that people do learn things in a short amount of time, especially when they are focused on a particular topic area and have good teachers.

Besides, I still hold to my tune that Bernardini was the most talented horse in training last year. I will not change my opinion of that.

Coach Pants 03-19-2007 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
How long ago was it that I said that? Months ago and I was wrong. You all tend to forget that people do learn things in a short amount of time, especially when they are focused on a particular topic area and have good teachers.

Besides, I still hold to my tune that Bernardini was the most talented horse in training last year. I will not change my opinion of that.


Grits 03-19-2007 07:33 PM

I hope that you gain the same bead on heart surgery that you have shown on confirmation.


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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
How long ago was it that I said that? Months ago and I was wrong. You all tend to forget that people do learn things in a short amount of time, especially when they are focused on a particular topic area and have good teachers.

Besides, I still hold to my tune that Bernardini was the most talented horse in training last year. I will not change my opinion of that.


kentuckyrosesinmay 03-19-2007 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
About as much as your posts in this thread have to do with horseracing.

Well, since this thread doesn't have very much to do with racing...

So, would you argue with me that trainers don't run horses when they are injured or sore?

Would you also argue with me that Badge of Silver and Empire Maker were not sore before the BC Mile and the Kentucky Derby?

I know that your knowledge area does not lie in deciphering a horse's talent level by watching them move, just as I don't have any expert knowledge on the business aspects of TB racing and pedigree, but wouldn't you agree that front wraps are usually an indication that a horse is sore or suffering from an injury when he hasn't been wearing them in all of his starts? Do you bet horses like these or does it depend on the circumstances?

When you are handicapping a race, do you ever look at the body language and fitness level of a horse in the paddock (not conformation, but body language)? In addition, do you ever watch how powerfully a horse is moving over the track in a post parade or how much he is on the bridle?

Since you are an expert DRF handicapper in the business, Andy, I'm sure that you would have to agree with me on some of these aspects of racing...

And I don't know why conformation was brought up in correlation with movement as they are in entirely different spheres in the TB industry. I don't ever look at a horse's conformation in the paddock.

Cajungator26 03-19-2007 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
Well, since this thread doesn't have very much to do with racing...

So, would you argue with me that trainers don't run horses when they are injured or sore?

Would you also argue with me that Badge of Silver and Empire Maker were not sore before the BC Mile and the Kentucky Derby?

I know that your knowledge area does not lie in deciphering a horse's talent level by watching them move, just as I don't have any expert knowledge on the business aspects of TB racing and pedigree, but wouldn't you agree that front wraps are usually an indication that a horse is sore or suffering from an injury when he hasn't been wearing them in all of his starts? Do you bet horses like these or does it depend on the circumstances?

When you are handicapping a race, do you ever look at the body language and fitness level of a horse in the paddock (not conformation, but body language)? In addition, do you ever watch how powerfully a horse is moving over the track in a post parade or how much he is on the bridle?

Since you are an expert DRF handicapper in the business, Andy, I'm sure that you would have to agree with me on some of these aspects of racing...

And I don't know why conformation was brought up in correlation with movement as they are in entirely different spheres in the TB industry. I don't ever look at a horse's conformation in the paddock.

I doubt it. Why does he need to?

As for looking at their conformation in the paddock... the way a horse is put together has a lot to do with how they cover the ground. A horse heavy on the forehand is going to hit the ground harder in the front, while a horse that is built more uphill, isn't. At least I think that's what you taught us a few months ago... :confused:

kentuckyrosesinmay 03-19-2007 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
I doubt it. Why does he need to?

As for looking at their conformation in the paddock... the way a horse is put together has a lot to do with how they cover the ground. A horse heavy on the forehand is going to hit the ground harder in the front, while a horse that is built more uphill, isn't. At least I think that's what you taught us a few months ago... :confused:


Most of these horses I have already seen move from previous race replays or from the two-year-old workout videos at the sales. There is no need to look at their conformation in the paddock because I already know how hard they hit the ground.

Where conformation does come into play is when you are looking at yearlings in combination with their class and presence because that is all you have to go on. It also comes into play with purchasing two-year-olds.

And what I said a few months ago about conformation in relation to movement, I stick by.

Also, I have made a lot of money by just watching a horse's body language in the paddock, looking at their fitness level, and seeing how they are getting over the track. It can be the breaking point to whether I play a horse in a race or not.

Cajungator26 03-19-2007 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
Most of these horses I have already seen move from previous race replays or from the two-year-old workout videos at the sales. There is no need to look at their conformation in the paddock because I already know how hard they hit the ground.

Where conformation does come into play is when you are looking at yearlings in combination with their class and presence because that is all you have to go on. It also comes into play with purchasing two-year-olds.

And what I said a few months ago about conformation in relation to movement, I stick by.

Also, I have made a lot of money by just watching a horse's body language in the paddock, looking at their fitness level, and seeing how they are getting over the track. It can be the breaking point to whether I play a horse in a race or not.

So, you're actually playing the horses now? A few months ago, you weren't really betting on them. I'm curious as to how you're making a lot of money by watching a horse's body language in the paddock... the 4-H competitions that I won didn't pay me a cent, dammit! :mad:

blackthroatedwind 03-19-2007 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
Since you are an expert DRF handicapper in the business


I'm an expert handicapper who freelances for DRF.

Coach Pants 03-19-2007 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
So, you're actually playing the horses now? A few months ago, you weren't really betting on them. I'm curious as to how you're making a lot of money by watching a horse's body language in the paddock... the 4-H competitions that I won didn't pay me a cent, dammit! :mad:




Antitrust32 03-19-2007 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I'm an expert handicapper who freelances for DRF.

and dont forget At the races and beyond also.

GPK 03-19-2007 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants




LMFAOOOOOOOOO.....the tears of laughter flow from my eyes like a river...:D :D

ArlJim78 03-19-2007 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
So, you're actually playing the horses now? A few months ago, you weren't really betting on them. I'm curious as to how you're making a lot of money by watching a horse's body language in the paddock... the 4-H competitions that I won didn't pay me a cent, dammit! :mad:

I wonder how she has time for wagering between several college classes, message boards, tutoring, working in the show horse industry, living the good life, watching videos of two year olds, teaching conformation to friends, etc.

blackthroatedwind 03-19-2007 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
I wonder how she has time for wagering between several college classes, message boards, tutoring, working in the show horse industry, living the good life, watching videos of two year olds, teaching conformation to friends, etc.


Don't forget to throw in a triple bypass or two.

kentuckyrosesinmay 03-19-2007 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I'm an expert handicapper who freelances for DRF.

I know. I didn't know that you freelanced though. Cool:cool:

Mortimer 03-19-2007 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
Only two horses have a chance to win the Derby. The exacta will be Notional and Circular Quay. Haven't decided the order but they are sure to be 1-2. It's as much a lock as Smarty and Lion Heart were going in in 2004. The sleepers are Curlin, Rags to Riches, and Scat Daddy. No others matter.

The Tampa Derby was a nice race. But I predict that it was so hard on those two that one or both will be out of the Derby. I believe one will be knocked out before the Derby and the other will be done for the year before the summer is over. Neither of these two horses finishes the summer.




Oh my God.

blackthroatedwind 03-19-2007 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
I know.


But of course you do....you know everything.

kentuckyrosesinmay 03-19-2007 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
you know everything.

No I don't. And I don't know what provoked this response. Are you going to answer any of my previous questions? Or answer this...do you at least agree with some of them?

kentuckyrosesinmay 03-19-2007 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Don't forget to throw in a triple bypass or two.

I'm going to be a non-invasive cardiologist.

paisjpq 03-19-2007 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
I'm going to be a non-invasive cardiologist.

you're going to 'lay hands'? cool:D

randallscott35 03-19-2007 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
I'm going to be a non-invasive cardiologist.

Like stents and stuff? I'll be needing those eventually.

miraja2 03-19-2007 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
I'm going to be a non-invasive cardiologist.

Oh man.....there is a joke here somewhere......I can't quite come up with it........


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