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Originally Posted by JJP

Flashy Bull is in tomorrow at Belmont in a NW1X that came up extremely tough. The race also drew Minister's Bid, a Ward runner who was IMO the most impressive Mdn winner of the spring Kee meet when he closed over that track wide and earned a 97 Beyer. Racketeer is in there as well; he was 4th beaten only 2 1/2 by AP Warrior and Point Determined in the San Felipe. Forest Phantom has a 2nd to High Finance; Habsburg is a Harty runner off a Mdn win at Bel (93 Beyer) and Elements is off a solid 3rd at Bel; 8 lengths in front of 4th (93 Beyer). This has the makings of a key race.

Go Flashy Bull. I love that horse but that is a tough field. Ward horses have looked pretty good so far at Belmont. I think one won by 16 the other day. Ministers Bid could be a special horse. I follow Keeneland pretty closely and his win was arguably the most impressive of the meet.

I like Minister's Bid over Forest Phantom & Flashy Bull. Forest Phantom is a consistent horse who almost always hits the board and Flashy Bull has the best past numbers but doesn't usually win either (although he is typically facing better than this).
I think I'll play this race and bet exactas and trifectas w/ MB over these two.

I agree Minister's Bid could be a real special horse. I tend to downgrade big Kee wins and figs, but most big wins there are speed horses who get to the golden rail, and that wasn't the case with Minister's Bid. Other than Bernardini's Mdn win at GP, this was as good as any I've seen in 2006.

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Originally Posted by Gander

The fact is the Travers doesn't attract many of the top 3yr olds any longer.

I dont necessarily agree about this. I wont oooh and awwe over the Travers as it gets near, but I wouldnt say the top 3 year olds arent attracted to this.

Its just by the time August rolls around, many of the best 3 year olds are hurt or retire because their greedy owners need a 9th house in the hamptons.

The Travers to me is just not all that and a bag of chips. :cool:

Didn't Birdstone, the horse who beat Smarty Jones in the Belmont Stakes, also win the Travers and Lionheart, 2nd to Smarty Jones in the KD, win the Haskell in 2004?

Personally I love races like the Jim Dandy, Travers, and Haskell, and they still do attract the best three year olds we have if they are not injured or retired. I like to watch the horses step up to the next level, and we are really going to have a lot of fun with them this year since we have so many good, talented horses that have not reached their peaks yet. Bernardini, Brother Derek, Sweetnorthern Saint, Discreet Cat, Corinthian, and Minister's Bid are all pointing towards the races. I'm sure that Jazil, Steppenwolfer, Sunriver, and Bluegrass Cat will show up at one of them too. Those all sound like the best three year olds we have to me.

Gander, this wasn't pointed towards you. I was just further clarrifying your point in that the races do attract the top three year olds that we have.

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Showing Up and Stream Cat are both using two turf races as preps for the Travers but they should be there too.